The story at that link is about 1 month old, but someone posted about this mural on Reddit yesterday.
Thoughts?
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Pretty clever use of the arch and the golden painted bricks to create a piece reminiscent of an icon.
Honestly, aside from what Mangione did and whether it can be justified, I just think this shows how America-brained so much of the UK is. The guy lives and committed his crime on the other side of the ocean in a context which does not exist in this country. I would personally prefer for him not to be executed but I don’t understand what anyone’s thinking when they use him as an icon over here.
I don’t understand what anyone’s thinking when they use him as an icon over here.
We are also governed by billionaires who own our press and control our politicians. It doesn’t matter that Mangione did what he did three and a half thousand miles away, what matters is that he is a symbol for the ultimate sanction the people can have against a billionaire class who are otherwise unaccountable and untouchable.
Brian Thompson was not a billionaire. As for the ‘unaccountable’ class our side of the pond, just yesterday a prominent political megadonor and former hedge fund manager was banned from working in financial services, so neither side of your analogy stands up to very much scrutiny.
EDIT: I mean, guys, you could try the path of ‘You can’t trust the systems any more! The only choice is to ignore the law and inflict arbitrary punishments on people we dislike!’ but it is not one that leads to leftist utopia.
The cost of living crisis is global. Exploitation of labour is global. Everything for profit’s sake is global. Climate action being hampered due to corporate interests is global. Wealth inequality rising is global.
What’s the alternative? Continuing as we have so far? Doesn’t seem to have worked out so great.
There is quite a range of options between continuing as you say we are and shooting people in the street. Again, enacting arbitrary violence against perceived enemies is literally what Trump is doing. This is not the path to take. Like all people calling for this kind of violence, you are assuming it won’t be inflicted on you or anyone you like, but that is not what history suggests will happen.
Incidentally, another way the UK is not like the US is that carbon emissions are falling in the UK.
I’m sure there are greedy shenanigans that happen without consequence in the UK, too.
Luigi Mangione did not do anything. He allegedly killed someone. He is innocent until he is proven guilty. You cant assume that just because someone is suspected for committing a crime, they actually committed the crime
Okay, this isn’t a court and it’s absolutely fine for people in casual conversation to say he did something when there’s strong evidence that he did.
Strictly speaking if he yelled ‘I did it and I’d do it again’ at the cameras on his way into court, he’d still be ‘innocent till proven guilty’ but no one would insist that actually meant he ‘hadn’t done it’. EDIT: Actually, strictly speaking, he’d still be ‘innocent’ under a strict definition after pleading guilty but before the jury pronounced him so.
In any case, as to our wider discussion, you’d then be disagreeing with many of the people here and arguing that people painted his face on a wall because he didn’t do anything.
I just think this shows how America-brained so much of the UK is.
Yep, they already had the majority of brands and culture back in the 80s and 90’s but since the internet and especially since social media we’ve never been so american
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM Comments are turned off.
Speaking as a Dutchie, I hope the big American middle finger (and Hitler salute) will at least lead to their culture not being so omnipresent in European countries anymore.
I’d like that for Feddit too, actually…
The UK: America without so much fascism and with better health care!
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My main thought is that this is very reminiscent of the way saints are portrayed in stained glass.
Internet jokes aside, it seems pretty weak to be venerating killers like this.
I’ll accept your down votes with grace.
Alleged killer, he has not been convicted of anything
He allegedly shot someone who was killing many other people for money.
It’s definitely sad and unfortunate that someone had to die, but I heard they were using unethical means to exploit vulnerable people and cause the deaths of many others.
If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.
It’s why you need a fair legal system.
It’s why you need a fair legal system.
This.
If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.
But not this.
If someone (a CEO, a powerful business man, a politician, whatever) is doing something so egregiously wrong then club together to raise awareness, take legal action, shame them in the press, set up you own alternatives. Going straight to murder is not the answer.
Yet it scares me that so many people think it is 😢😬.
Then club together to raise awareness, take legal action, shame them in the press, set up you own alternatives.
Pretty sure that everyone over in the US has already tried and failed this. If not, then you’re 100% correct.
They might have tried it in different ways, and it might be really difficult I don’t deny that. But the alternative of murder seems a little overkill, no?
No one went “straight to murder”. There have been decades of struggle.
You’re also describing the “boxes of liberty” thing. “To be used in order: soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box”.
No one went “straight to murder”
This Luigi chap did…
Not allowed to down vote. You wrote hurty words. That’s violence. Literal violence.
Don’t you just love Woke.
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Mangione has pleaded not guilty to charges of murder as an act of terrorism
Act of terrorism? Yeah sure…
Well made mural art, but it will get removed in the next few weeks now it has been made public and getting traction !
It might still be there. The article I got the OP image from is about 1 month old, but someone posted photos of it on Reddit yesterday: https://old.reddit.com/r/london/comments/1jdgavu/luigi_mangione_in_bethnal_green/
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People supporting something you don’t agree with doesn’t mean they’re doing it for popularity points, just the same as you supporting something that I don’t, wouldn’t have me saying you’re doing it for points.
Shocking but people have beliefs, whether right or wrong.
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I don’t know if it’s effective, it’s too early, the trial hasn’t even begun. What I do know is artists make statements whether I agree with them or not.
It doesn’t exist in this country yet. Don’t forget we’ve had over a decade of Tory cuts and particularly to the NHS, they’ve privatised more and more parts of it so it doesn’t seem to unrealistic that with our special relationship we will end up in a similar place.
Look at dentists. Woefully underfunded and so many dentists move to private practice making finding an NHS dentist an insurmountable task for many people.
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he took another life in cold-blood
Hasn’t been proven, yet, so he’s innocent still. Also: it wasn’t cold blood, whoever shot the guy was angry and targeting him specifically
Lick that CEO boot harder, you’ll surely get a share soon!
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First, he and his wife had been separated for some time, and he had minimal contact with his kids. Second, how many children lost a parent due to being denied coverage as a direct result of his policies? I don’t know the exact number, but I know it’s a lot. No sympathy for that evil bastard.
What? I don’t typically find males attractive and I was supportive of this man’s actions way before I knew what he looked like.
Also, isn’t it a bit too soon to say he hasn’t accomplished anything through his violence. I mean at the very least he’s sparked a massive discourse about how Americans have a fucked up health industry. This is all while the media pretends he doesn’t exist anymore because they realised that sympathy for Brian Thompson was… lacking to say the least.
All of which was handled improperly by the police. The arrest the evidence all of it fruit of the poisonous tree. It’s gonna be a mistrial.
