• There’s some that are quite clearly different than most. hexbear is probably one of the most notorious. lemmy.ml, while commonly associated with hexbear, still has a clearly different vibe from hexbear.

      But with regards to toleration of transphobia, there’s certainly variation with regards to moderation, which means certain instances have much more widespread transphobia than others. Similarly differences exist with regards to other forms of bigotry, such as some instances tolerating pretty overt misogyny with regards to the bear vs man in a forest topic while others used it as a chance to ban a lot of people they didn’t want in their communities. Some see their instances more like a small community to hang out with friends and others see their instance more as a public forum open to anyone.

      Lemmy.world for some reason seems to both have a lot of ban-happy mods, regularly being mentioned in places like PTBs, yet somehow is also known for tolerating transphobia.

      Apparently at least one person associates the instance I’m posting from with people who just want reddit (unsurprising given the name it would appeal to such) and the person claimed to assume I was being transphobic somehow because of the instance I was on (I think they missed a word like “not” or something that drastically changed the meaning).

      Imo, blahaj has a lot more similar feel to reddit trans communities than a lot of the other trans communities on the fediverse.

      I don’t normally pay attention to what instance communities or posters are from, so I don’t really have much direct opinion and more just see second-hand opinions.

    • I first noticed the issue with .world when discussion of Luigi was censored there in December. That’s why I’m not on there any more. They’re too eager to toe the line and appear corpo friendly like reddit.

  •  arrow74   ( @arrow74@lemm.ee ) 
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    That’s the problem with platforms that offshoot for free speech reasons.

    I want to be able to say eat the rich and luigi magione was right.

    Others want to spout hate in all forms.

    Then people begin to argue these are the save of you should tolerate intolerance. Which you should never do

  • serious sports discussion here, so please leave any politics or phobias at the door.

    i could not care less about how people identify and what they do in their time. but how are you going to create a level playing field in sports?

    this guy did it to show the gaping loopholes, which trans and self identification provided back then: https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/ (no idea what the rules are today). and yes, you could probably filter out the guys, which identified male 5 mins before the contest.

    but this is an issue with any sports, not only pure strength. i was couching floorball for a while. when we did not get enough ppl for trainings, the womens and mens club would train together. while the women where better (technique and higher league) playing a match women against men, would almost never end up with the women winning. floorball is considered contactless. but the strength difference would still create a big gap.

    one proposed solution was to separate sports into high or low testosterone instead of male or female. i would be afraid of that just devolving into another doping war in the higher leagues. how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa? me personally would not mind, but the additional logistics could prove difficult for hobby or semi-professional organisations.

    •  Ada   ( @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      so please leave any politics

      You say, as you wade in to a topic that only exists for political reasons, and is actively driven and sustained entirely for political reasons

    •  Sunshine (she/her)   ( @Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      Trans-women are women who represent 0.2% of the population whom many are taking estrogen. You don’t care about regulating those with natural physical advantages in sports just with those who were often excluded from society as you want to keep hurting people for no reason.

      • obviously I care about those too. same as any steroids, PEDs, own-blood doping and whatever drugs, hormones or whatever they invent to increase performance. and stop crying for trans women. the example i mentioned was basically a trans woman with zero treatment. even if he was an obvious troll.

        the whole argument is about having a reasonably fair and therefore interesting competition.

    • Mixed teams, weight classes, a handicap system. These issues have been solved before the word transgender was even invented. And for some sports a natural advantage is just how it goes. I’ve never heard anyone propose banning tall people from playing basketball. Don’t get me wrong, I understand that what you said is the prevalent opinion and I don’t think it’s neccessarily coming from a bad place. But it’s misinformed and inherently political and I think it’s important to acknowledge that.

      how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa?

      This for example sounds viable to many people unfamiliar with the matter but in reality we might as well separate athletes by zodiac signs since testosterone levels just aren’t a reliable marker at all.

      Another thing I see sometimes is the proposal of an all trans olympic alternative which among other things goes to show that people vastly overestimate the amount of trans athletes thanks to said politicisation.

      •  zeezee   ( @zeezee@slrpnk.net ) 
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        This^ - as @ToxicWaste@lemm.ee noted - women and men are good at different things so I don’t see why we can’t require mixed gender teams with equal representation for pretty much all sports.

        And if somebody cries “fOrCeD dIvErSiTy!!” then you never really cared about women’s participation in sports anyways.

        • i like that: just sports, not womens- or mens- or trans- or whatever- sports. but by which system do you stop an all males team identifying as women for the duration of a weightlifting competition?

          i dont have a good answer. but i was hoping someone in the discussion has.

      • agreed, testosterone (or other hormones) are a flawed system for categorising competitors. so is weight class, as women generally have a higher body fat ratio. so is any system we can come up with. however what I categorize MYSELF as, is probably the worst system. trans people should, like any other person, be able to do sports. but to have competition we need a better system then people choosing their opponents.

        so that is why i am asking what systems you guys suggest.