I’m very happy with Proton.
Same here.
I am, as well.
proton team too
Proton. Because i know how to read, and people had twisted the CEOs words completely beyond what was written. Reading ‘and’ comprehension folks. Try to build both skills.
He supports nazis. I don’t care why.
That’s not the right mindset, but he really did say positive things that were simply not true about Trump’s party in the wake of current-ish events.
Why is nazis=bad the wrong mindset? Its been good enough for most people for 100 years.
The problem is, the person saying “these guys are nazis” could be simply lying.
A good example is Putin funding nazis everywhere in ex-USSR since around 2005, then managing to get Europeans to think the Ukrainian freedom movement was somehow a nazi movement even though the prevalence of right-wing extremism was growing until 2014 just like in the Russia and started decreasing in 2014, while it kept rising in the Russia and Russia-controlled areas such as Crimea.
If the Russia was to gain control over Ukraine, the prevalence of right wing extremist attacks would start growing again like it did until 2014. And yet, a lot of Europeans, especially in Germany, are opposing Ukraine because of the "these guys are nazis, nazis=bad mindset. Nazis are bad. It’s just important to understand that someone accusing someone of being a nazi doesn’t mean that the someone actually is a nazi.
The mindset has caused large parts of Ukraine to fall under circumstances that cause there to be more fascism. Anti-fascism has ended up promoting fascism in this case.
I have not read about what Proton’s owners have said and will delve into that now. But my experience, having lived in Ukraine in 2015 and 2016 and in Germany between 2008 and 2010 (and still having good friends there), is that many are eager to jump on a bandwagon of lynching an accused nazi, even if the accuser himself is a nazi and the accused is not.
It is ugly seeing precisely those who would be needed for fighting fascism work as errand boys for fascists.
Anyone who has a different opinion than mine is necessarily an idiot
Happy proton user here too. For 5 years already 😊
Moved away from Proton since their CEO couldn’t keep his mouth shut.
Migrated to migadu.com, works nicely.
I must’ve missed this, what did he say?
He has on several occasions offered praise to the Trump Republican Party. He quote tweeted a post from Truth Social where Trump announced his nominee for Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division at the Department of Justice:
Great pick by
@realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.When the response to this tweet was negative, the official Reddit account doubled-down:
Here is our official response, also available on the Mastodon post in the screenshot:
Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation.
Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidentally has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote.
At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance.
By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand.
Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.
Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans are more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.
This post was then deleted with Yen claiming it was a “miscommunication” and pledging that Proton would stop offering its political opinions.
It’sucks that he’s cheering trump but the things he says about democrats are entirely plausible… I mean… would anyone be surprised that politicians are corrupt regardless of the party?
He doesn’t say that, he says Trump’s party cares about the little people over big corporations, even when they’re the ones putting people on places of power for huge bribes from their big corporations while deporting the little people.
Basically said that Trump was a nice guy with good politics, and he cheered him up.
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
I’ve been using mailbox.org since a while. Reliable and 12€ per year, can’t really complain. Easy domain name too
The reason I didn’t go with mailbox is that they recycle your email address after 90 days. So if you decide to leave or didn’t pay for 30 days, 3 months lager someone can make a new emailaddress under your old name.
Hm, good point
Also a fan of mailbox having switched
I’ve had a proton account since 2016 but be er really used it much. I am now using it as my main account and have mothballed Gmail but will eventually delete Google altogether.
I use posteo.de, and are very happy with it.
posteo going well for me too!
Mailbox.org for me
I’ve migrated some stuff but lots still to update.
I’m on the lowest tier and only have the 3 aliases, I think it may be worth using multiple aliases from what I keep reading online, so may need to upgrade tier before I migrate more accounts.
Tuta has been great.
Proton choked down my chargeback after they said some unwarranted nice things about US republicans.
Switched my custom domain to mailbox.org from icloud
I have gone one step further and started a an email provider. Hosted in Frankfurt, backup in Amsterdam.
Custom domain Webmail, IMAP, pop, all with TLS obviously Calendar, tasks, contacts sync all in one, all Foss solutions. Anti spam, anti virus
Haven’t figured out how to sell that yet, or at what price, but I’m working on that. XD
I moved to proton, then found out about their CEO (fuck Nazi apologists) and moved again to tuta. I’ve been very happy with their service. It’s just email/calendar, so more like ‘no issues to report’.
Been in the proton ecosystem for 5 years, never leaving
Mailbox. For the imap support.
Tuta has been cool. Not sure if I want to commit yet though. Hate that can’t use thunderbird with a free-account but I am considering just getting a paid account.
Third party clients are not supported at all.
Oh shit, I thought it was mentioned that it’s possible with a paid account… God damnit. Didn’t fully read their pricing page since I wasn’t sure if I’ll commit.
Honestly that’s kind of a deal breaker for me when thinking about paying for an email service. I need other, nonpersonal email accounts that are from various providers and I love that I can have them all in thunderbird.
Thankfully I didn’t yet do much with the email and was using it for new registrations.