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- canada@lemmy.ca
https://www.desmog.com/canada-proud/
“Canada Proud is part of a network of conservative groups and social media pages initially founded by conservative activist Jeff Ballingall”
Anyone who follows these pages on social medias should know. They are literally propaganda pages, and are loaded with disinformation and misinformation. And if you know people who uses social medias, they should know.
some exemples of sheer lies, source here https://www.desmog.com/canada-proud/
"In 2020, PressProgress reported that Canada Proud was falsely claiming that the federal government had banned Remembrance Day ceremonies.
In 2021, PressProgress reported of Canada Proud claimed that COVID-19 vaccines were being distributed according to “skin colour.”
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Now is the time to be getting information from Canadian Owned and Operated media.
There will be disinformation campaigns unlike any other election.
Also, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation which has recently paid for YouTube ads against automatic tax filing.
I reported those ads as misleading as soon as I saw them.
Every ad I see with pp is immediately misleading, false, and blatant bullshit too…it’s easy to spot. Sadly some people are so hell bent on fuck trudeau that they will never see reality of anything
Honest question here, why does everyone get upset over these third party groups but not others? Why is it when unions use member dues to support a candidate or party it’s generally accepted but this particular instance is bad?
Personally I think they all embellish or outright lie no matter which side of the political spectrum they support. The fix is not to complain about specific groups, it’s to ban this type of advertising from anyone other than actual candidates and parties. Make them own their bullshit instead of hiding behind third parties.
You’re right; manipulation, no matter the intent, is assholery and should be called out. No one should forgive bullshit done for “the greater good”.
A significant issue here, and what’s specifically highlighted in this post, is that this group has strong and direct ties to the CPC leader, and so its status as “third party” is questionable.
Plus the blatant and flagrant lying about things and people.
Like, if the union heads had worked on Carney’s leadership campaign and then started running ads saying that Poilievre was a habitual cat rapist, all as a means to create the false perception that there were multiple independent groups opposing PP…
But sure, the situations are totally symmetrical.
I’m old enough to remember the “Harper will put soldiers on our streets” ads but ok buddy.
For what it’s worth, I don’t do that – at least not deliberately. I think we all tend to be a little less vigilant about scrutinizing information that confirms our biases; It’s a natural human failing worth first inward attention and second consideration when accused of it. I actively guard against it, but cannot guarantee I never slip.
It’s also super tiresome when people discover it’s a magic trick to disingenuously waste thoughtful people’s time. That’s a tactic employed very unequally across the political spectrum.
More to your specific concern, I very much dislike political ads not endorsed by the party they support, especially if they’re deliberately obscuring their motives. Messages from unions tend to be motivated by values that align with mine, which makes it all the more frustrating when they employ the very tactics people like me spot as discrediting. It’s like having the truth on your side but instead lying or misrepresenting facts just to take a more extreme position – and all it does is abandon the high ground and strengthen the resolve of dissenting views.
You can’t reach reasonable people with unreasonable tactics, and you can’t reach unreasonable people period. The latter are going to blindly accept or invent whatever empowers their motivated reasoning. Until you have the power to change their motives, it’s a lost cause.