In the spirit of rapprochement with Europe and reorientation away from the United States, it’s time to complete the Metrication process in Canada that was stopped prematurely by the Mulroney government.
I’m 178cm and 65kg
Fuck you trump
Yup, let’s drop imperial for absolutely everything!
Japan is almost entirely metric (with a couple old units used in parallel). We buy TVs, monitors, and bicycle tires in inches (which, while fine for me, is just gibberish to japanese). I’d love for that to stop
Let’s finally move to the ISO 216 standard for paper!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216
Oh please, yes!
When I moved to Mexico I was always annoyed with the weird ass paper formats, then when I moved to Canada I had hoped that over here they would have sane formats but alas…
Seriously, the entire world got upgrade after upgrade everywhere and the US constantly was like "nope, we will keep our feet and miles and inches because those “make sense” keeping a large part of developed nations in the dark ages
OMG this.
I was a little confused by the paper sizes when I moved to Japan, but it makes so much sense. I love it now.
When someone asks your height, you answer in centimeters.
Howabout meters? 180cm = 1.8m
Centimetres are more commonly used to measure height (e.g., on official government issued IDs)
And honestly the accuracy doesn’t hurt here. 170cm vs. 180 is a pretty big difference in how tall someone seems.
1.8 * 102 cm
Honestly it’s just easier for me anyway, because I’m like a quarter short of an inch. If I round down people get confused since they’re used to the numbers being padded on top of everything, and if I round up I’m padding the numbers myself.
Can we also double down on getting information only from Canadian Owned and Operated media?
The linked article is from the CBC…
The post title is: “Time to double down on the metric system”.
At the same time, I also think it’s a good idea to:
double down on getting information only from Canadian Owned and Operated media
I agree we should be refraining from using US owned media, but it’s a little confusing to comment about it on discussions about something else.
The post body:
In the spirit of …reorientation away from the United States
My comments are exactly in line with the discussion, to move away from US media.
No, it still felt pretty non sequitur.
I went to the states a couple years back. Went to a tavern and was deciding on a beer. Bartender overhears I’m Canadian and tells me the size of the pints in decilitres 🙄
For what it’s worth, I’m pretty comfortable with FL oz from reading soda cans and stuff. I just find it crazy how unintuitive metric is to some.
I appreciated his effort, I just thought it was funny
Decilitre is actually the common unit for drinks in Hungary (and possibly in other countries). Hungarians also use dekagramm, which is 10 grams. But the cool thing about metric is that to convert, you just move the decimal around!
The cool thing is, it’s still an easy conversion to bring it back to a familiar unit!
To be fair, pints in the US are 95 mL smaller than pints in Canada, so it’s at least a good reminder.
That’s just ridiculous. The pint is a measurement unit in itself. The fact that the bartender didn’t seem to be aware of that fact is a failure of the imperial system in itself, though not really a surprise since the system relies entirely on memorizing arbitrary values that have no connection with other units.
Though admittedly, the US pint is smaller than the British pint, so there is justification of pointing that out.
A pint in the U.S. is 16oz. What’s a British pint?
For us it is 2 cups in a pint 2 pints in a quart 4 quarts in a gallon. (People seem to struggle with remembering that until you tell them quart as in quarter, or 4 in a dollar etc)
Weights are fucked, but I usually just remember 16oz is a pound. Only drug users and chemists remember 28 grams in an ounce. So an 8 ball (1/8th is 3.5 grams). And depending on where you are ranges from 110-240 dollars. So you go to the store and buy a bottle of liquor (sold in metric units, and the store owner will stupidly call it a half gallon) but it’s 1.75L, 1L or 750ml for $20-30. And you’ll pass out 2 days later super dehydrated upset you wasted all your money.
Dunno in oz, but a US pint is 473mL, and a British pint is 568mL. Quite the difference TBH, and a bunch of bars in Vancouver got fined a few years ago due to shorting customers not providing a full pint when selling them. Some of them were even forced to buy new glasses because they weren’t big enough to fit a full pint.
This is a reoccurring problem with the imperial system, since the units just turns into words and no longer hold their meaning as measurements because they’re so arbitrary in the first place and are next to impossible to convert on the fly. Like a span is the width of a hand, but that’s useless when the difference in size is easily 50% to double just comparing between women and men. Or how you need to specify fluid or dry ounces, yet people often don’t bother and just confuse each other by not specifying. Or how complicated conversions and comparisons are to the degree that most people don’t do them in imperial and just force themselves to memorize what each arbitrary unit is in a vacuum.
28g to an ounce is a good thing for homebrewers to know, too! I measure hops in grams, and recipes are often given in ounces.
Recipes are just food chemistry i suppose.
Touche
That would be the correct way to do it. Just one or two digits for most common sizes, from shots to full glasses. I’d say a very large percentage of European beers, wines, etc. measure that way, and the remainder use mL.
Seems to be a cultural thing. Here in Canada I see mL and L most often for drinks.
One quirk of metric I have taken a liking to recently, is in Japan, apparently they measure their object dimensions in mm. ‘The size of one sheet of Letter paper in mm is 279.4mm x 215.9mm.’ I don’t know why, but for some reason I like this.
Can we get the UK on board with this as well? (Maybe when they rejoin the EU? And let’s drive on the same site of the road as 98% of the planet while we’re on it).
Other than miles most of our stuff is metric anyway, at least legally. Like yeah, we use stones and feet for ‘human’ measurements in speech etc but if you go to the doctors it would be in kilos and metres. There are a few oddities like milk bottles being in pints and beer in pubs but even then you find things like plant milks and bottles/canned beer in litres. The one that really makes no sense is car fuel efficiency. We sell fuel by the litre but measure it in miles per (imperial) gallon - so it doesnt even tie up with American figures.
I agree with fully adopting metric, but what budget benefit would driving on the right bring?
I can’t think of much. Changing isn’t unprecedented, but you’re also far from alone driving on the left. Off the top of my head: the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, India, Pakistan, much of Southern Africa…
Places that have changed within the last 100 years: Sweden, Newfoundland, the rest of Canada ('cept Ontario and Quebec) switched just over 100 years ago.
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