I could never understand why people are so against MS account. There’s a similar requirement to use products from Apple and Google and everyone is ok with that.
I could never understand why microsoft is so against local user account. There’s a similar freedom from corporate fuckery when using Linux and everyone is ok with that.
You realize that PC stands for “Personal Computer”, right? As in MY computer. My property. I should be free to use a local account without issue. I should be free to value my privacy.
This is why Linux is growing faster than ever. It actually understands what personal computing is.
… why would I want an online account? OneDrive is (or should be) optional, and can be replaced with any other cloud storage solution (and quite frankly ought to work on normal accounts too, even if requiring an online account specifically for OD). Updating the OS evidently works without an online account. Can’t currently think of another reason for it.
So I’d get one optional feature, and in return less privacy.
I have several Android devices that work without signing into any account. I get my apps from F-Droid and some apks extracted from my phone that does have a Google account.
Samsungs are annoying, with their regular nagging, begging you to also make a Samsung account. I would never buy one but I’m on-call with a work-owned Samsung and there’s one notification that can’t be disabled. It goes off every once in a while and makes me think I have a service call.
Windows, eh, I switched to Linux long ago, but there’s always alphabet soup edition (IoT LTSC) that is far less bloated.
On iOS, apple barely shoves their bloatware down your throat. Their methodology is the opposite actually. Simplistic and debloated, for the most part. Google doesnt force you into anything either. There are alternative software that you can use.
With windows the only alternative is Linux, but a small fraction of people know about let alone use Linux so thats not really in the conversation.
Windows wants to force you to make an account/log in with one which cant be done offline unless you do some commandline workarounds in win11. The issue is, this is a PC. Not an iPhone. Not a Samsung. It is your own dedicated hardware that you should be able to use as you please without being forced into an online-only system that forces copilot down your throat.
Your pc isnt “a Microsoft computer”, its a computer that happens to run an operating system made by Microsoft.
I could never understand why people are so against MS account. There’s a similar requirement to use products from Apple and Google and everyone is ok with that.
no they are not
I could never understand why microsoft is so against local user account. There’s a similar freedom from corporate fuckery when using Linux and everyone is ok with that.
Because normal users don’t need a local account. If you want one - use the enterprise edition of Windows.
You realize that PC stands for “Personal Computer”, right? As in MY computer. My property. I should be free to use a local account without issue. I should be free to value my privacy.
This is why Linux is growing faster than ever. It actually understands what personal computing is.
… why would I want an online account? OneDrive is (or should be) optional, and can be replaced with any other cloud storage solution (and quite frankly ought to work on normal accounts too, even if requiring an online account specifically for OD). Updating the OS evidently works without an online account. Can’t currently think of another reason for it.
So I’d get one optional feature, and in return less privacy.
Google and Apple don’t force us, though they try hard, so many are still not ok with that.
I have several Android devices that work without signing into any account. I get my apps from F-Droid and some apks extracted from my phone that does have a Google account.
Samsungs are annoying, with their regular nagging, begging you to also make a Samsung account. I would never buy one but I’m on-call with a work-owned Samsung and there’s one notification that can’t be disabled. It goes off every once in a while and makes me think I have a service call.
Windows, eh, I switched to Linux long ago, but there’s always alphabet soup edition (IoT LTSC) that is far less bloated.
On iOS, apple barely shoves their bloatware down your throat. Their methodology is the opposite actually. Simplistic and debloated, for the most part. Google doesnt force you into anything either. There are alternative software that you can use.
With windows the only alternative is Linux, but a small fraction of people know about let alone use Linux so thats not really in the conversation.
Windows wants to force you to make an account/log in with one which cant be done offline unless you do some commandline workarounds in win11. The issue is, this is a PC. Not an iPhone. Not a Samsung. It is your own dedicated hardware that you should be able to use as you please without being forced into an online-only system that forces copilot down your throat.
Your pc isnt “a Microsoft computer”, its a computer that happens to run an operating system made by Microsoft.
iOS IS the bloatware.
so is Windows
No.
I don’t think it’s everyone being ok, more like everyone complying because sometimes you have to.