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Blaze ( Blaze@feddit.nl )  to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 years ago

Saab confirms negociations with Portugal for Gripen as an alternative to F-35

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Saab confirms negociations with Portugal for Gripen as an alternative to F-35

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Blaze ( Blaze@feddit.nl )  to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 years ago
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Saab confirma negociações com Portugal para venda de caças Gripen como alternativa aos F-35
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  • torrentialgrain ( torrentialgrain@lemm.ee ) 
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    The Gripen uses US-built engines iirc so it’s still a problematic buy for Europeans.

    • lime! ( lime@feddit.nu ) 
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      it used to have a volvo engine but volvo aero got absorbed into a british conglomerate about 10 years ago.

      point being, we can make the switch again.

      • torrentialgrain ( torrentialgrain@lemm.ee ) 
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        The EU can (or rather, could) potentially make lots of things, the question is if there is sufficient political will to do it.

        • oce 🐆 ( oce@jlai.lu ) 
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          French multinational Safran is still making engines for airliners (with GE), Rafale fighters and Ariane rockets (with Airbus).

        • GissaMittJobb ( GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Recent events have increased political will significantly.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝 ( HK65@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Well, the F35 uses European engines, so there’s that.

      • torrentialgrain ( torrentialgrain@lemm.ee ) 
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        No, that’s only the VTOL variant for the marines (F35B). The regular F35 uses P&Ws if I’m not mistaken.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝 ( HK65@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          The others still use European software for cockpit display, fuel management, on-board vehicle systems, Euripean made rear fuselages, and ejection seats.

    • ikt ( Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ) Banned from community
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      tbf seems like the Americans make some pretty good engines, even Airbus a320neo uses

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_PW1000G United States

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFM_International_LEAP France/United States

      • torrentialgrain ( torrentialgrain@lemm.ee ) 
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        No doubt, the problem has never been with the quality but with the fact that a hostile American regime can refuse to send spare parts. Which is not as troubling with civil aviation but certainly when we’re talking about our own militaries.

        • Ebber ( Ebber@lemmings.world ) 
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          It’s more than the spare parts in this case. The F35 system relies on networking to services located in the US in order to be fully operational, which can be alleviated with choosing Gripen.

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            I was talking about the Gripen regarding spares.

            The F35 doesn’t necessarily has to be operated via systems in the US, only if you don’t buy the proprietary terminals to program its flight-Mission systems. Israel for example has bought the entire package including terminals and they are able to operate the jets without US involvements. EU countries however of course chose the cheap option without terminals.

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              Israel is the only buyer to be permitted to run its own software.

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        I wonder what will happen to the collaboration between American GE and French Safran that makes the CFM under Trump.

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      Removed by mod

    • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼 ( Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The Dassault Rafale uses Safran engines, right?

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