Just wondering, why wouldn’t you want to run Android? AOSP is fully open source, google free, and runs on linux anyways, these other OSs are just bound to be buggier…
AOSP is a huge set of unknown. Despite it’s Linux, it’s not like my Arch where I can contribute to the OS. There are arbitrary security measures against the user protecting the device maker, not the user. Where’s my sudo command, where’s my terminal?
Android is fucking garbage, I’d rather use Windows. Unfortunately, other mobile OSes are somehow even worse.
Android is worse than windows?
Jolla is still around? Still awaiting my jolla tablet.
I got stung in the same crowd funding disaster. In the wake if it I moved away from using sailfish as a daily driver but I’ve just bought one of these (in pic from OP) and it’s really nice. I’m away at the minute but when I get back I’ll be using it as a daily, with an android phone as a WiFi tablet for banking and the stuff that needs a “real” android device*.
*I.e doesn’t run on the android emulator that comes built in.
I was one of lucky few that got half of my pledge returned, but two weeks later they reversed it.
I’ve really been thinking of one of these.
Sailfish has the best user interface out of all the mobile distros imo.
So how’s it been?
Have fun!
Have you tried Whisperfish, the unofficial Signal client? I’m curious how good it is nowadays. Back when I tried it, I believe voice and video calls either weren’t implemented or broken.
Please report on what the 2025 Sailfish experience is like.
the very page you’ve linked to lists what features are and aren’t implemented
Ah thanks, I overlooked that. I’d still like to hear though what the actual UX is like nowadays.
I watched a review on youtube, basically the phone is great for enthusiasts, nothing more, it is overall slow and you have to disable android apps , wifi and bluetooth to have a 0,6% / hour standby battery drain. Celluar and bluetooth is not stable while using android apps.
I kind of want one. I don’t need it. But i kinda want it.
Your purchase includes a 12-month Sailfish OS full license subscription
Didn’t expect a Linux phone to be the first subscription based OS. Makes for a total cost of ownership of ~600€ if you keep the device for 5 years. (299+4.99×12×5)
I don’t mind paying because it costs money to hire developers to write the code. You can use Postmarket OS, Ubuntu Touch and Mobian instead.
The real criticism is that the user interface isn’t open-source.
Does anybody know if these things will work in the states with a carrier like t-mobile? Obviously you still have to get it here but I’m trying to look past that stuff.
I did some quick skimming on the state of Sailfish US connectivity in early 2024.
5G support will not work on 10III for T-Mobile. 10III 5g bands: n1, n3, n7, n8, n28, n77, n78 T-Mobile USA 5g bands: n41, n258, n260, n261, n71
however, 10 V adds the band n41, so we will EVENTUALLY get SOME 5G coverage
Xperia 10 ii on US Mobile or other T-Mobile MVNO is your best bet.
Didn’t Jolla locked their phone’s bootloader?, and you have to pay them if you forgot your password and need to factory reset?
Um no? And why the Upvotes?
Yes, Jolla didlock the bootloader by default. Why? To prevent an attacker from circumventing the lockcode.
Did they do it to take away freedom from users? No. You can unlock it yourself at any time, of couse you need to unlock your phone for that.
Do they make you pay for it? No they even provide instructions for unlocking!
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How is it? Would you recommend it?
On my end, I picked up my first smartphone, an iPhone 16e. Hopefully Apple would be at least neutral in whatever conflict comes, or someone figures out how to jailbreak iPhones to access the world.
The way I figure, I will need something better than a $20 flip phone if I aid against the Trump Regime. Linux phones might not support European banks, which may be important.
How is it
