• As an American that has traveled to many places, why would Europe want any type of American food. I felt like most countries I’ve traveled to especially in central and South America and places like Italy the food is more farm to table and by far way more healthier. Have you ever seen Fanta from Europe compared to USA?

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      I had to look up Apeel, but I think it’s a good thing actually:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeel_Sciences

      Apeel Sciences is an American food technology company based in Goleta, California. Its edible coating product Apeel or Edipeel can make avocados, citrus and other types of fruit last twice as long as usual by using a tasteless edible coating, and reduces food loss and waste as well as reliance on single-use plastic packaging.

      Edipeel is allowed for use on the following fruits in the European Union, Norway, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom: avocados, citrus fruit, mangoes, papayas, melons, bananas, pineapples, and pomegranates.

      On their website they seem to rightfully point out that E471 (apparently a combo of E422 and E570) is already approved for consumption in the EU, so it doesn’t make sense that they’re limited to foods where we don’t eat the peel. If it’s safe and gets the plastic off the cucumbers, I’m for it.

      e: Does anyone actually have a source for palladium being used in Edipeel’s manufacture? I can’t find one. Most of what I’m getting in these searches is that the plants they use to make E471 can contain heavy metals they absorb from their environment, and that the levels are low enough to be considered safe by US regulations. (No clue whether the limit is reasonable.)

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          No, the substances in question are already approved for edibles. I think the issue is that additives are not allowed on produce, because the Swedish Livsmedelsverket phrases it in a way that implies such to me.

          “Får användas i nästan alla livsmedel som får innehålla tillsatser.” “May be used in nearly all foods for which additives are allowed.” I think it’s reasonable that there’s probably a regulation about not having additives in things people are assuming will be natural. I mean, how would you post allergy warnings on a peach?

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          I don’t think apples need any help either (they actually produce their own wax coating apparently), but the cucumbers are in plastic, and there’s a ton of strawberry waste because they mold immediately. If it is indeed safe then it could be very beneficial in such cases.

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          I hope I didn’t seem like I disagree with the EU’s caution, or that I was minimizing the seriousness of food issues in the US. I just hadn’t heard of Apeel before and was really surprised when I looked it up because I was expecting to be horrified. I genuinely hope it is safe, both for the sake of people who don’t have a choice and also for the potential value in reducing food waste.

          I’m not able to find out whether palladium can be easily rinsed off because Google is desperate to sell me boots, but the company does claim you can wash the fruit, so I hope that’s adequate. I do know that lead can be easily washed off, so maybe?

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        It’s been a while since I’ve seen a cucumber in plastic. The whole thing looks like a synthetic type of wax, waxing apples is definitely legal in the EU (also, a unwashed apple off the tree has a natural wax coat, and they continue to produce wax in storage) but I think it’s only natural waxes. You could probably get a novel synthetic one approved but the sales aren’t going to be worth the paperwork.

        Everything in the EU needs approval, it’s not a “wait and see” type of situation, and E-numbers generally have approval for certain uses, it’s not a blank cheque. It might be fine in this instance but making it a free-for-all would quickly dilute the standards. Also “quantum satis” (“whatever amount is sufficient to achieve the effect”) would lose its meaning if you take the desired effect out of the E number.

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    America won’t buy our corn and guns!

    Why won’t America buy our corn and guns?

    Oh, because they make their own and they’re fucking thousands of miles away.

      • I belittle conservatives for my own enjoyment, and to laugh at them with my peers. I gave up on changing minds when I gave up on changing my dads, and that was 15 years ago at least (was a gradual decline, not sure when I actually gave up).

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          I mean, yeah, you can totally give up on changing minds and write conservatives off if you want. That’s definitely a choice that you can make. And sure, no one is responsible for doing the emotional labor that it takes to change minds.

          But if you don’t, will anyone?

          I would rather have conversations aimed at changing minds than write people off.

          • I hope someone will. I hope you do! To be honest, I think I’m too angry to have conversations that might change a mind anymore. Like, I’m angry at them for falling for whatever fake news nonsense that they’re all riled up about, and I actually am not mature enough to keep the scorn and contempt out of my voice.

            Of course they’re angry too, and so here we are :p

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    “they hate it because its beautiful” makes absolutely no fucking sense. these people need to be laughed at to their face. (among other things)

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    I kinda like that he is doing this because while this won’t reach a large number of MAGAts, at least a few will pause and realize, “Wait, other countries have higher standards for their citizens than the food that myself and my family eat daily? Is that… a good or a bad thing?”

    And some small number will learn something they would’ve never been exposed to if the orange-moron didn’t say it.

    I don’t imagine it will reach many of them, they wouldn’t be MAGAts if they thought about things very deeply after all, but some of them will get it.

    Thank you Mr. President for starting this awareness campaign (in the stupidest way possible).

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      at least a few will pause and realize, “Wait, other countries have higher standards…”

      Nice thought, but too generous. If you’re not England, France, or maybe Germany, then we consider you a third world country. (Incorrectly!)

      If anything, this will piss them off more: “How dare these third world countries reject the world’s best food?!”

  • I don’t mind the statement behind the post, but was there really no other medium for the post than the Trumpist NYPost? This is the same media that supposedly wants to ask 10 questions about the tariffs in an article to defend them, and then asks questions like should Trump keep 12 million illegal refugees in the country like Biden?

    What does this question have to do with legitimising the tariffs? No idea, ask the brainwashed journalists at the NYPost.