200 off is incredible
Aint no way people pay 211$ for that adware, spyware piece of shit operating system. Thats wild.
When https://massgrave.dev/ exists it’s even worse.
I think this tax on tech illiterate people is getting too high.
Should I start selling USB drives for $5? I don’t wanna encourage Windows. But I feel bad for the normies. $211 is insane.
MS literally allows massgrav on GitHub. They have for years. They do not give a fuck.
Paying for windows at this point is a normie tax. And it’s gotten too damn high!
When I was getting my PC they tried to upsell me for a 250€ windows license even if I insisted I didn’t need one x3
Wait, I had to do a double take. I thought they were charging $200 extra for Fedora and Ubuntu. They could consider sending some money to those distros for development which would still be cheaper than buying windows.
I hope more OEMs start showing the price like this during configuration. People would probably think A LOT harder about using Windows if they were offered a $200 discount for trying something else…
“By Grabthar’s hammer… what a savings”
He fit so much disgust and defeat into the delivery of that line. Absolute perfection.
Let’s see who considers the Linux options when they see they can get the same machine for 200 bucks cheaper. I hope other brands start considering doing this too.
Not only that. The software is so much better.
I love it.
Though some people will certainly take it wrong. The “iPhone is more expensive because it’s better” people will happily pay their Windows tax, assuming they’re even in the market for a Lenovo.
They always refused to reimburse the cost of Windows licences before this even if it was illegal in the country you lived in. I’m very surprised.
This should be standard in stores. If people could save that much, they wouldn’t choose Windows haha
It looks like (at least here in the U.S.) that this is the only model that allows selection of the OS. I looked at cheaper models of different product lines by them and they all include Windows 11.
I don’t understand why companies don’t offer more Linux options these days, there’s zero excuse
Because no one buys Linux PCs. Dell used to sell multiple lines of laptops with Linux, but pretty much no one was buying apart from a few freaks.
Would be nice if started with Linux as “included” and then added the 211 for windows.
If they did that sales would drop because people would switch to another manufacturer that gave them Windows for “Free”.
you save 200$ by not having window$ in it?
The year of the Linux desktop is upon us?
Always has been
🔫🐧
No I think this time it actually is
I hope that MS continues to be this stupid, because it will drive people to at least check out linux. Unfortunately, history has shown that they are quite shrewd when it comes to preserving their stranglehold on the consumer desktop market.
Ms has one major issue. They can get worse Linux can’t. If xyz component of Linux goes to shit it gets forked. Its Darwinian evolution at its finest.
I thought they’d done this for years (on certain Thinkpads anyway)? Still I’d rather install my own than trust Lenovo to install it for me.
Yes they have. They are a bit inconsistent on what’s available, sometimes no linux version at all. The x1 gen 13 doesn’t offer it last I checked.
Can’t wait to see how they manage to fill fedora with bloatware too
You’d still be able to just reinstall Linux, and save money in the process. And simply having the option available will probably help get Linux to some users that aren’t overly tech savvy
I’m pretty sure they’ve been doing that for a long time. The other more business focused OEMs too.
Indeed but it’s rarely available to the general public. They don’t mind selling 2000 units to a business with dedicated IT support. They (used to) totally draw the line at providing individual support to individual customers.
In my experience (France), buy it while you can because it pops from time to time & disappears without warning.
In my experience in Germany it’s just available. Only for the business focused models, but still.
Shipping it with Linux is the easiest way to convince a consumer that it does run Linux. :)
That’s a funny way of sayin’ that a Windows Home license costs $211.00.
Fedora is better than Ubuntu?
Generally yes
Yes
- It has more up to date packages (while being reasonably stable), their implementation of gnome is essentially vanilla so its easier to build off of as a base (unless you like Ubuntus extensions and fonts but tbh you can always add those yourself)
- Their KDE edition (starting from the recently released version 42) is no longer a spin so it should get as much attention as Workstation (Gnome)
- DNF is arguably much better than APT and especially with the new improvements its seen
- Fedora handles snapshots much better (btrfs)
- There are more extensive third party repos on fedora
- They dont shove snaps down your throat
I currently main Fedora. It is reasonably stable and reasonably cutting-edge. I’m happy about it.
I like this picture.
It’s the usual upscaling method, but in this case, there is a way to get the price down from the default…
