Good thing
I’m surprised no one seems upset about this change.
Because you can run a “rootfull xwayland” session which is essentially an X11 session but rewritten to be more maintanable.
After this, it’s a lot harder to be opposed to the loss of X11, because you don’t really lose it.
Everyone seems to poke on the vim vs emacs/gnome vs kde/systemd vs everyone else but it seems to me the most toxic feud in the foss world has been x11 vs wayland. People had throwed shit at it because of their own specific issues and its “slow” development pace without realizing it’s a titanic endeavour and the hate and toxicity brings absolutely nothing positive to the table nor the development of Linux & FOSS in general.
I don’t think it’s quite a titanic enough endeavour to put slow in quotes. It’s been in development for 16 years and only got a stable support for screenshots a few months ago. Does drag and drop work yet?
IMO at this point it is reasonable to say that the idea of having a shared protocol and then making every desktop environment implement the entire display server was not a good one. The Linux community does not have enough manpower to make that work well.
People had throwed shit at it because of their own specific issues and its “slow” development pace without realizing it’s a titanic endeavour
I think most realize that it is a titanic endeavour and know that it might take years until their issues are solved, so they get angry when people are like “works for me, so everyone should use it now”. I’ve tried Wayland twice, each time it was deemed “ready” by someone, and each time something obvious was broken. x.org works and does what I want, so I’ll continue using that.
Most apps work fine without X
About time. X11 is yesterdays jam!
