As a German who lives in Finland: bravissimo!
you’ll have to work on your finnish a bit more
you what?
Will they criminalise denial of the Gaza genocide, you know, the one that is currently underway?
Not yet. The ICJ is still examining the mountain of evidence. It will probably take a few more years.
I dont think we coined the term Holocaust until after the Germans lost the war. I imagine it’ll be the same with Gaza. History needs to happen and be written first.
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None of this is accurate even if history started on Oct 7.
You are blatantly lying.
Jewish human rights groups and human rights groups all over the world as well as genocide scholars all over the world are calling what is happening a genocide. I’ll put more weight on their conclusions than someone who has nine bullet points of Zionist hasbara.
I’d say there is overwhelming evidence that this is likely genocide, but we can’t say it is one until the ICJ finishes reviewing the mountain of evidence against Israel
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You need to read the definition of genocide. I highly recommend following that with the south African report to the ICJ
Gazan civilians are not being “targeted”. It is Hamas and Hezbollah who are intent on genocide. I mean they actual say it - why not believe them?
If Israel is intent on genocide they aren’t very good at it. They could have wiped out ⅔ of Gazans in the first week after October 7 but chose not to. Meanwhile Hamas and Hezbollah to this day call for ridding the Levant of all Jews but Cannot.
Trump’s talk of “evicting” Gazans to Libya is disturbing. That would be ethnic cleansing.
Gazans civilians are absolutely being targeted
See lavender. And the SA report
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Criminalise the gaza genocide denial, too.
On one hand, this feels very “thoughtcrime”-y. On the other, certain people should probably just not have a platform to spew their nonsense on. I’m curious to see how this plays out.
The only way for tolerance to exist, is to not tolerate intolerance.
The paradox of tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance not as a moral or legal standard, but as a social contract:
If someone does not abide by the terms of the contract, then they are not covered by it.
In other words: the intolerant are not following the rules of the social contract of mutual tolerance.
Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract, and their intolerance should NOT be tolerated.
That reminds me of the south park episode with Mr Slave
I feel like banning their speech will only make them look like martyrs
I feel like as long as the banned speech is extremely specifically defined, I don’t care if they look like martyrs. “The holocaust never happened” is easily defined as holocaust denial, and it’s easy to enforce.
The problems arrive when a law is passed with an ambiguous, poorly defined meaning like “hate speech”. Hate speech can really mean anything someone else doesn’t like.
Laws restricting speech are a disgrace. Unbelievable that they actually seem to be passing it.
The classic “you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater” denier.
Everyone knows you can only yell “fire” in an empty theatre. You generally get trespassed immediately thereafter.
Which Holocaust? All of them, or just the one from 80 years ago?
Probably not all of them. We dont know of every one. Some were prehistory.
I’m not a Finn, but I dont think they were involved in many Holocausts except one?
