- cross-posted to:
- usa@midwest.social
- cross-posted to:
- usa@midwest.social
Imagine my surprise reading this on the LA Times this morning (emphasis mine):
“I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”
Here is an archive of the article.
Here is his account.
It looks like he only stayed on Lemmy for about a month, most likely a temporary Reddit exile with the earliest exodus on June 2023. The article mentions threads on Reddit but doesn’t provide any quotes from there. User IndictEvolution on Reddit deleted their account, and the article makes it sound like they are referring to a different username that they don’t specify.
No but liberals, esp centrists, have a much higher tolerance for fascist ideology, esp cryptofascism.
It’s like when people just don’t perceive how awful racist dogwhistles like DEI, globalist, thug, etc.
I agree the term goes too far. I just see the connection. Most liberals are well meaning patsies, but they have a line.
That’s an absurd level of connection though. It’s blown right past the mild hyperbole of calling Twitter a Nazi site because it doesn’t ban Nazis, past calling your Fox News uncle a Nazi for voting to “stop the caravan”, through labeling MSNBC a Nazi station because it buys into the “break the conservative fever” myth, and into the territory of “everyone who doesn’t agree with me is an actively organizing Nazi”.
Stormfront isn’t a site for “well meaning patsies” and calling .world a Nazi site is just making up a heroic story for why the fascist at 7/11 kicked you out because he hates communism rather than because you were being an asshole to everyone else in the store.
Eh. Nazi bar analogy. You tolerate Nazis, then it’s a Nazi joint. I’m not going to say there isn’t a gradient, but I see the ideological connection even if I don’t necessarily agree with it.
I don’t actually know that much about the administrations of the various instances beyond what you see on all/hot.
If the relationship between liberals and Nazis (NOT saying they’re even remotely equivalent) isn’t clear to you, then i don’t know what to say.
Not trying to be glib. Maybe I’m just too deep into the socialist literature to relate to regular people anymore.
Oh I’m well aware of the relationship, but if you call CNN Stormfront, you’ve completely lost the plot. Things can be problematic without everyone being a Nazi, and in a time with real Nazis out in the open doing things, crying wolf is actively harmful.
OK so you get my point and I get yours, so where are we disagreeing? I don’t think stormfront is anything but a glib jab at mainstream liberal norms for enabling fascism/Nazism. I really don’t think it’s a bad thing to point out.
CNN’s position on genocide is at least as bad as Stormfront’s.
A Nazi in a bar makes it a Nazi bar. A Nazi bar in a town makes it a Nazi town. A Nazi town in a state makes it a Nazi state. A Nazi state in a country makes it a Nazi country. A Nazi country in the world makes it a Nazi world.
You can construct gradients of connection for anything, but that doesn’t make them not insane. If .world is a Nazi website, then .ml federates with them, so they’re also Nazis. And hexbear federates with .ml, so they’re also Nazis. And this all stems not from .world actually tolerating Nazis, but just being kind of center-left normies. When you’re eager to make everyone a Nazi, the accusation loses all meaning.
Is it? We’re seeing the most horrific project of ethnosupremacist genocide since the actual Nazis, and the kind of liberals that populate .world have been full throated in their support of the people doing it.
The last 18 months have made me increasingly skeptical that they actually do have a line.