• Gronk ( Gronk@aussie.zone ) 
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      A similar point to be made, we tried this style of legislation in Australia.

      Under the guise this was for the publics interest, the only ‘legal’ vapes you can buy in the country now are manufactured by Phillip Morris International and other big tobacco companies.

      The blackmarket continues to thrive and with it organised crime grows, have yet to see a pharmacy that stocks ‘legal’ vapes.

      Police in my local area are either paid off or get black market tobacco products for free to turn a blind eye to this issue, can’t imagine thats limited to my area only.

      I’m all for regulation around nicotine products but I sure as shit wouldn’t trust a pollie to make decent legislation around it at this point in time.

      • WatDabney ( WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Huh.

        I thought about going into all of that, but at this point in the US it’s still mostly speculative, since they haven’t gotten the bans in place yet, and these pretentios fucksticks would never believe it anyway.

        I didn’t know that it’s actually happened in Australia. That’s unfortunate, but it’ll provide me with an example in the future.

        It’s a fairly standard corporate move though. The biggest corporations lobby for a bunch of restrictions and requirements on their own industry because they’re in a position to meet them, but they’ll serve as a barrier to entry for potential competition.

        So it’s possible - arguably even likely - that these self-righteous asshats crying about the evil tobacco companies are actially effectively (or even literally) working for those very companies.

        Which is just another reason why I have nothing but scorn and disdain for them.

    • Godort ( Godort@lemm.ee ) 
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      Why not ban both? There are nuanced approaches you could take that wouldn’t immediately force every addict to quit cold turkey, or turn to the black market.

      • WatDabney ( WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Banning is not and will never be part of a “nuanced approach” to anything. It’s the approach preferred by shallow, self-righteous, authoritarian shitheads.

        And there are likely a dozen things you did today that are more harmful than vaping. The only thing that makes them any different is that they’re not things that have become focal points for shallow, self-righteous, authoritarian shitheads

      • Flavoured vapes (except menthol and smoke flavour) is illegal in Denmark, and guess what? Everyone and their mother vapes illegal vapes. The prices has actually somewhat gone down after the ban plus today I see kids vaping everywhere, didn’t do that as much five years ago.

  • kbal ( kbal@fedia.io ) 
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    [Imperial Tobacco Canada] also supports the federal government’s regulations to limit flavours to tobacco, mint and menthol

    Tobacco companies and nanny state crusaders: United in wanting to make vaping less tasty.

  • @otters_raft

    What do you want to be banned…the smoking or the nicotine?

    All the junk from burning plant matter kills you slowly. Nicotine in small amounts is horribly addictive; that is what keeps the smoking going. Or vaping. Or any other tobacco. I speak from decades of experience, I used them all, from 12 years old to 77. Quitting the nicotine was hell, and the vehicle did not matter.

    So ban the damn nicotine and be done with it. Poo on all the people making money out of it, they are drug dealers.

    At this point the political will just dies.

    • Nicotine is somewhat addictive. It’s not that bad on its own. Quitting nicotine vapes was about as hard as quitting caffeine for me.

      I believe in an adult’s right to choose, and harm reduction. The government isn’t here to tell us what’s morally right and wrong, it’s here to define our rights and privileges. It’s fine to restrict where one can smoke or vape because that involves other people. I think it’s a waste of government resources to try and tell people what they “ought” to be doing with their own bodies (because they will never succeed, and it’s not their job.)

    • Otter Raft ( otters_raft@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      What do you want to be banned…the smoking or the nicotine?

      In this case I saw the news article and I wanted to hear people’s thoughts on it. I learned a lot from the comments, and appreciate you adding your perspective, thank you :)

  • Imo if vaping is just meant just for the nicotine fix then yeah ban all flavored Vapes and just leave the unflavored ones.

    If it is supposed to be fun child enticing air candy then maybe you need to check your morals and invent a better product and we ban all nicotine from the market altogether.

  • trungulox ( trungulox@lemm.ee ) 
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    Go fuck yourself. Now. Fucking cunt cheese nanny state wastes of fucking skin.

    Kindly find a porto potty, eat everything inside of it, and die in fucking agony. Please.