• CoffeeJunkie ( CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe ) 
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    1 year ago

    Ohhhh…this provides much needed context & clarity that I didn’t have before. When I hear there’s been a ‘shooting’ in America, while this is technically correct, I don’t think it’s one person shooting another. I hear ‘shooting’, and I think one or more shooters/multiple targets/largely indiscriminate just one group vs another.

    By all accounts, this is very discriminatory & targeted. Obviously. I would word it as “Jonathan Joss murdered”, then explain he was gunned down by a deranged homophobe.

    Until just now, I genuinely assumed Mr. Joss got caught up in a mall or gang shooting. This is especially tragic & inexcusable, such targeted hatred.

    • Tbh, most “shootings” in America aren’t active shooter events in the way you expect. Most are targeted and related to other crime (be it robbery, revenge, domestic assault, etc), some fit the definition of mass shooting (4 or more shot incl shooter) but it’s gang/crime/drug related and often in those cases a bystander or two, more fall in that category than random mass shooter events by an order of magnitude.

      The mass/school shootings you imagine are actually incredibly rare statistically, something like 0.00094% last time I checked. In fact even most “school shootings” are the same, with one or no people injured, and targeted. Or even accidental discharge with no injury by the school cop or a suicide in a recently shut down forever school at 3am in a car in the parking lot (real events counted in everytown’s school shootings numbers a few years ago).

      Hate crimes are for sure more common, actually.

  • yuri ( yuri@pawb.social ) 
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    1 year ago

    i actively avoid texas whenever i have to drive cross country. i’ve gone as much as 4 hours out of my way. every time they threaten to secede i hope TO GOD they go through with it.

    • vader8er ( vader8er@pawb.social ) 
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      This is such an insulting and frankly stupid take. Homophobia is not the work of self-hating gays, it’s just bigots being bigots. I’m sure that some closeted self-loathing gay folks do this kind of shit, but if you’re seriously suggesting that the only people who are willing to throw out homophobic slurs and violence towards gay people are other gay people then I don’t know what to say. Conservatives are hateful bigots to virtually every minority group on the planet, but only with homophobia are they accused of being the thing they’re being hateful towards. Why? I’ve never seen a racist accused of secretly being black, or a anti-semite being secretly Jewish, but apparently every homophobe is just a poor confused homosexual trying to throw of the scent.

      Speaking as a gay dude, please stop this victim-blaming bullshit.

      • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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        You have to be right, of course, demographically speaking. There’s no way the amount of bigotry we see could come entirely from a fraction of a minority, as the person above you is implying.

        That said, it is difficult to reconcile that with a key feature of homophobic (and transphobic, etc.) rhetoric that is not present in racist beliefs: homosexuals are accused of choosing to be gay.

        Which, of course, is as absurd as accusing someone of choosing to be black. And yet we hear one of these constantly, and never the other.

        How is it even possible for someone to think that sexuality is a choice, unless they are constantly and actively “choosing” their own? That’s not a rhetorical question. I genuinely can’t make sense of it and that bothers me deeply.