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TwinkleToes ( TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago

Russian Negotiations 101. My first offer? You surrender everything, submit to enslavement, and completely disarm. Final offer. What's the point of talking to these nihilist barbarians?

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Russian Negotiations 101. My first offer? You surrender everything, submit to enslavement, and completely disarm. Final offer. What's the point of talking to these nihilist barbarians?

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TwinkleToes ( TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca )  to Ukraine@sopuli.xyzEnglish · 1 year ago
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Russia to demand Ukraine destroy Western weapons to end war, senior Kremlin official says
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The remarks reflect Moscow's growing list of maximalist demands presented in its so-called "peace memorandum."
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  • some_guy ( some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    There’s no need to negotiate. Trump will end the war on day one. Wait… /s

  • Che Banana ( The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 
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    it’s only for their amusement…fuck russia

  • cub Gucci ( vivalapivo@lemmy.today ) Banned from community
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    Didn’t think I would be alive to see anti-Israel post here

    • subversive_dev ( Transform2942@lemmy.ml ) 
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      You must be thinking of the genocide, this is the proxy war

      • TransplantedSconie ( TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee ) 
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        deleted by creator

      • cub Gucci ( vivalapivo@lemmy.today ) Banned from community
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        this is the proxy war

        IDK, really. True that NATO doesn’t want direct involvement and wants Ukraine to kick Putin’s ass. But it begs the question: is Russia a proxy for China or we just force the interpretation of the proxy war onto reality?

        • subversive_dev ( Transform2942@lemmy.ml ) 
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          It was a throwaway quip but Wikipedia says:

          a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power

          So the Ukraine war fits squarely in that definition. Other examples I found cited online were Korea, Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan - all of which have a major power as one of the direct belligerents

          • cub Gucci ( vivalapivo@lemmy.today ) Banned from community
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            Yup, looks like it fits the definition without a stretch

    • TwinkleToes ( TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      ? nobody mentioned Israel. Well - you did, but not sure why. I take that back - I have an idea why. I’m sure I’m going to regret responding to a 2d old burner account - but, here we are.

      • cub Gucci ( vivalapivo@lemmy.today ) Banned from community
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        Because I read the title and it did sound like what Israel has been saying for days

        • TwinkleToes ( TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca ) OP
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          right. Well - we’re not talking about Israel at all here, sorry. I’m sure there’s lots of space to discuss it not in an explicitly Ukraine themed thread.

  • RizzoTheSmall ( RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee ) 
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    Nihilist? Do I have a wrong understanding of that word or are you accusing Russia of simply believing that existence itself is meaningless and futile and that the universe is so unbelievably massive and enduring that nothing humanity can possibly ever achieve will even register as a cosmic blip?

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