It would be nice if tipping was just gone, and everybody got paid a living wage, like in most of the rest of the world. We’re in a Nash equilibrium right now where if you don’t tip, you’re an asshole. Other people might even tip more if they hear about it, which reinforces the status quo. So I keep tipping well, and disliking that we’re stuck here.
How can we end tipping culture and just have everyone be paid a living wage?
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I tip because I used to live off tips. I’d like the laws to change, but until they do, punishing my server certainly won’t help. I also don’t go out to eat very often. Tipping isn’t a major expense.
If you can’t afford to tip, then you can’t afford to go to a restaurant or order delivery. If you have a philosophical problem with tipping, then cook at home and write to your congressperson. Don’t screw someone who’s struggling to pay their rent.
Edit: changed “congressman” to “congressperson”. Surprised that one slipped by.
I tip because I earn enough money to tip. We should all aim to be a little bit more like Robin Hood and a little bit less like Prince John. You know what I’m saying?
Take the wealth from the rich motherfuckers and give it to the poor bastards that the rich motherfuckers are getting rich off of.
I don’t understand why people don’t just add 20% to the prices of things in their heads. We already do it for sales tax. We know the number at the register is gonna be different.
Right? I’m not good at doing math in my head, but even I can handle 10% times two.
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I’ll tip at a restaurant where I’m seated, someone takes my order, brings me my food, and clears my table. If I have to order at a counter or do any of the above it’s not a place I’ll typically tip.
At McAlister’s the other day I went in and say down, pulled up their app on my phone to place my order, and that’s when I noticed they had removed the table numbers, so you can’t use the app to place an order. I went to the counter and the lady taking my order was in training, however they weren’t really training her. She had to stop someone and ask how to do every little thing. The register next to me had 4 people go through it in the time it took her to take my simple order. The whole time I’m thinking how much easier this would have been using the app. Finally, the order is in and I pay with my card, and it asks for a tip. The options are 15% 20% 25% [Other]. I had to actually put 0 in for the tip amount. I won’t be going back.
It’s important to mention this location doesn’t do “table service”. The most they do is bring the food to your table. They don’t take the order from the table or give you refills.
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It’s not their fault that greedy muthafuckers simply take take take. I can’t fix the system, so I simply do what I can.
Let’s get one thing straight: Waiting tables is the one industry where workers are already getting a living wage, and tipping is the reason for that.
Yes, it’s a messy, organic system that no one would have designed. But it’s evolved to fill the niche perfectly. Servers get more money, labor costs stay low, patrons choose how much they pay. It’s a win-win-win and they only people unhappy are the one who think they are paying the servers too much.
Why would I want to switch from a system where consumers can pay for my labor directly to one where the managerial class takes a cut? If a restaurant stopped allowing tips, and raised prices by 20%, how much of that increase do you think would go to the workers? There’s no way to get rid of tipping that’s not a reduction in server pay and a more negative experience for restaurant patrons. As a bonus, these “solutions” usually make things harder for exactly the kind of small businesses that we all wish there were more of.
Tipping works. Please don’t “fix” it.
Tipping works for servers because you as the customer has good insight into how good the service you got was. Customers need to tip poorly when the waiter is bad for this to work.
Tipping for delivery is unethical - the only way a driver can give you better service is if they break driving laws , so your tip is incentive to commit a crime.
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there’s things like being able to find an apartment or navigate competently on the roads, both of which I’ve seen drivers struggle with thanks to gps-enabled apps.
Why are you ordering delivery if your life is so empty that you have time to watch what the driver is doing. Just go yourself. If delivery is so bad that you feel a need to watch it like that, then it is unacceptable. This is just baseline competence - you shouldn’t be handling this with tips, their manager should be firing someone who can’t figure out how to navigate after getting training (Which they should provide before a driver starts!)
thinking to grab condiments/napkins, and other little niceties that go above the delivery itselff.
That is for the store to put into the bag, not the driver to deal with. Even if the driver puts them into the bag, they are standard baseline and the manager should do that.
I’ve had enough bad experiences that I appreciate when I don’t have a shitty one, like food that’s been clearly flopping around in the car or a driver too lazy to use a hotbag to keep stuff warm.
Those are things you don’t find out about until the driver has left your door with the tip.
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I almost never order delivery, so I’m asking out of confusion on why someone who does use it does if they are that bad.
I do tip delivery because as I said it is expected. However I still contend it is unethical.
Who tips for delivery based on speed? It’s much more about how bad the weather is.
I think the complaint about tipping is more the pervasiveness of it.
Why should I be asked to tip a cashier at a convenience store when I had to pick my own products and carry them to the counter? Sometimes I’m even asked to tip when I’ve scanned and bagged myself
Part of the virtue of the tipping system is that you choose how much to tip, and $0.00 is an option. I don’t tip on retail purchases, either.
If I was ever forced to tip, I’d just transfer the entire amount to the tip and change the bill to be free.
If the business complains, I’d just say their service wasn’t worth it, but the worker was doing a great job.
It’s infuriating that the tipping culture is trying to spread to europe as well. I live in Finland and went to a restaurant a couple of weeks ago and while paying the bill the payment machine (or what ever it’s really called) had the audacity to ask whether I want to tip or not.
No. I don’t. The wages of the waiters do not suck here as they do in the states. They’re not the greatest, but you get by.
I tip if it’s delivery or table service (food) because the minimum wage rules are bullshit.
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Because it is expected and so not tipping is ripping someone else off.
We no longer really eat out and stay away from anything that involves tipping as unfortunately its been put in to allow lower wages. So no uber, grubhub, whatever and no dining in and carry out places that show a tip option are places we don’t go to anymore. I know we are extreme but it just got out of hand and I mean. If all americans did like us. Well tipping would one way or another go away (some businesses would fold and some would remove the practice).
Even with places that don’t have tips some weird North Americans demand for it to be implemented.
I don’t go out to eat a lot so I always tip very well unless the service is terrible.
I don’t. I try not to eat at places that don’t pay their employees a proper wage and try to subsidize it through encouraging or even requiring a tip. I rarely get fast food, either, because it’s way more expensive than just cooking for myself.
