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als ( als@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 year ago

In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

www.theguardian.com

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In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

www.theguardian.com

als ( als@lemmy.blahaj.zone )  to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 year ago
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Ban on Palestine Action to take effect after legal challenge fails
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Being a member of, or showing support for, the direct action protest group will be a criminal offence after judge’s decision
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  • madlian ( madlian@lemmy.cafe ) Banned
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    Wow, and I thought the US was bad.

    • WolfmanEightySix ( WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social ) 
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      We just really really like you.

  • thefluffiest ( thefluffiest@feddit.nl ) 
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    I support Palestine Action 🇵🇸

    • Echo Dot ( echodot@feddit.uk ) 
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      You can’t say that this is a Christian server, where we support mass murder, like the good people that we are.

      • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ( PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ) 
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        It’s fine, it only became shocking horrible proscribed terrorism speech at exactly midnight on the 5th July.

        Since this commenter posted that sentiment on Friday, July 4th, 2025 at 10:05:07 PM GMT+01:00 He/She remains an upstanding, law abiding citizen

        1 hour and 55 minutes later though…

    • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ( PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ) 
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      Now say it again now

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    I don’t disagree that it wasn’t a reasonable protest and those responsible should be prosecuted for the criminal damage etc… but to list them as a terrorist group because of one non-terrorising action is a tad ridiculous, counter-intuitive, and the optics for the government are terrible.

    • murmelade ( murmelade@lemmy.ml ) 
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      don’t disagree that it wasn’t a reasonable

      You broke my brain with that one

      • galmuth ( galmuth@feddit.uk ) 
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        Fair enough, I wouldn’t disagree that it wasn’t the worstn’t way to word it.

        • murmelade ( murmelade@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Hahaha I got what you were saying but I had to read the first part like 5 times. All good though 👍

        • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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          Double negative is positive, but a triple negative is back to negative. 😵‍💫

  • HumanPenguin ( HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ) 
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    This is absurd.

    Yes Palestine Action broke the law by damaging insanely expensive property. And like any protest that dose this. The right or wrong of the cause has no effect on the legal requirements of the actions.

    CND, Greenpeace and many many other protest organisations have also commited expensive crimes over the decades.

    When a government starts deciding what citizens can or cannot support rather the how. It is no different to banning book or speech.

  • Mrkawfee ( Mrkawfee@feddit.uk ) 
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    Madness. This is madness. We have no right to criticise Russia or China after this

    • Executive Chimp ( executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Madness? This is Starmer!

      • Leraje ( leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        It’s Blair actually. His gvmt put through the changes to the Terrorism act in (I think) 2001 that has allowed this sort of thing to happen.

        One of the ironies of this whole situation is that Yvette Cooper has expressed admiration for the Suffragette movement numerous times, including in the Commons. A movement that self-described as terrorists

        • Executive Chimp ( executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          Yeah, but that doesn’t rhyme with Sparta.

  • Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) 
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    The UK’s government is barbaric.

    • NKBTN ( NKBTN@feddit.uk ) 
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      It’s lost. Keeps passing ridiculous laws that only effect 0.1% of people just to look like it’s doing something. On many occasions people charged for breaking these laws get to court, and the laws are then overturned by judges because they contradict another law.

      I expect this is what will happen here, eventually, but it might take 7 years to happen

  • yarr ( yarr@feddit.nl ) 
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    Oi, you got a loicense for that pro-Palestinian sentiment?

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    Seems a bit much to label them as terrorist but they’ve done a lot of vandalism on various companies. Seems their MO is to find a target rationalize how it’s somehow tangentially associated with Israel and then break some shit.

    They crossed a line when they did this to a military base and vandalized some RAF planes. They had some weirdo rationalization for this, but forgot to rationalize how this kind of thing will help anyone in Gaza. They seem to be just breaking things to get attention for themselves.

    • crapwittyname ( crapwittyname@feddit.uk ) 
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      They crossed a line when they did this to a military base…

      They didn’t cross the line into terrorism, though. Yes, they are criminals, no, they are not terrorists. It’s an incredibly important distinction. By definition, they are not terrorists:

      criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages…

      -definition of terrorism, UN resolution 1566

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        The UK parliament is sovereign, not the UN. So how the UN defines things isn’t relevant.

        Also the law is meant to prevent terrorism. While I don’t agree with the designation in this case, I can understand the concern around how this group is escalating their attacks. There’s this “globalize the intifada” stochastic terrorism going around and the Iranian regime (the ultimate source of most of this shit) just got it’s ass handed to them and may be looking to do something to show their people they’re still “strong”.

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          Since the UK signed the UN charter in 1945, it might behoove us to conform to their definitions unless, of course the UK parliament has agreed on a different definition for terrorism?

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      Removed by mod

      • SpaceCowboy ( SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) 
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        So you think that some speech should be banned?

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          • SpaceCowboy ( SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) 
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            Banned from humanity.

            What do you mean by this? Is that a death threat?

            • worldAdminsGenociders ( worldAdminsGenociders@lemmings.world ) Banned
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    Sorry but of course they got banned. If they didn’t then the government would be sending the message that military sites are fair game and suddenly undermining the UK’s military preparedness would be a legitimate form of protest. If this had happened in the US they’d probably be facing the death penalty for treason.

  • Destide ( sirico@feddit.uk ) 
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    I only know the group Yvette Cooper

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    So, uh…does the UK government understand what happens when the punishment for speech is the same as the punishment for violence?

  • katy ✨ ( cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    i think we should arrest everyone who takes direct protest action against military targets, kier starmer.

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