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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.ca · 1 year ago

They deffo don't

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They deffo don't

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Lady Butterfly she/her ( LadyButterfly@reddthat.com )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.ca · 1 year ago
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  • vaguerant ( vaguerant@fedia.io ) 
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    Sorry to go all Godwin’s law, but astrology can and has been used as a tool of oppression. Nazi Germany had a state-sponsored astrologer, Karl Ernst Krafft, appointed by Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess and Chief Propagandist Joseph Goebbels. Krafft was employed to write astrological propaganda that justified anti-semitism on the basis of celestial events. He was also tasked with using astrological observations to predict threats to the Führer Adolf Hitler and offer military advice.

    Ultimately, it’s not the stars and Moon that do the oppression, just whoever is in charge of divining their meaning, which is also pretty much how religious oppression works.

    • CosmicTurtle0 [he/him] ( CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      It’s almost as if certain types of people want to be assholes but want an irrefutable entity to say it’s okay.

      • nanoswarm9k ( nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org ) 
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        Never trust someone else’s imaginary friend over one’s own.

        • otter ( otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Here’s a thought: go one further. Kill all gods & masters.

          • HikingVet ( HikingVet@lemmy.ca ) 
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            We will only be free when the last monarch is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

            • otter ( otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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              Repair world hunger with a woodchipper & fertilizer tumbler… Yeet The Rich.

          • nanoswarm9k ( nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org ) 
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            Eh not giving up my kinks, but everyone needs to have the right to say no or it’s not fun.

            (sorry, the homebrewed anamist theism is too fun right now, and i got a puppy boy that’s counting on me so… upvotes for thoroughness and enthusiasm)

            • otter ( otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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              Religion has been the single most detrimental invention of humankind since civilization’s dawn.

              To the other point, since nearly that same catalyzing point in our history, undying Truth itself can be found in the loving eyes of a goodest boy. (source: my own life has been saved by one on more than a few occasions and ways. 🙇🏼‍♂️🐕🥰)

    • outhouseperilous ( outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from community
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      Reagan too. Basically his whole second term was just his astrologer.

  • mortemtyrannis ( mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml ) 
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    A belief system that makes claims which are demonstrably untrue is susceptible to being used to oppress people (or elevate them unnecessarily).

    Astrology is bunk. Yes I am fun at parties.

  • anar ( 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Astrology has specifically oppressed swaths of women in the Indian subcontinent. Search for “manglik” for starters.

  • Ginny [they/she] ( svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    If the moon doesn’t oppress women, then why is the menstrual cycle the same length as the lunar cycle?

    Checkmate, atheists astrologists!

    • outhouseperilous ( outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from community
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      Thats only cis women though.

      And also some trans men.

      And some genderqueers.

      So…

      • jsomae ( jsomae@lemmy.ml ) 
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        in other news, you’re not racist if you only oppress 98% of black people but allow a small number through.

        • outhouseperilous ( outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from community
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          Depends how fine a mesh youre using, moisture content, all sorts of stuff im.not an expert in.

          • jsomae ( jsomae@lemmy.ml ) 
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            okay, yes, I agree, but your mesh is poor in the point you were making. It’s not transphobic to say that society is misogynistic if it makes life hard for people with afab anatomy. And uh… that the moon is oppressing women too I guess? What were we even talking about…

            • outhouseperilous ( outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned from community
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              Rebellion against heaven, mocking the laws of man and god as we shatter the spheres of oppression that mock us nightly and, you know… Do stuff.

              • jsomae ( jsomae@lemmy.ml ) 
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                sounds like we’re in agreement

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                  But not because they’re bigot-rocks, just because its cool. Whether they’re bigot rocks or not.

  • neuracnu ( neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Additionally, the stars and moon actually exist.

  • rumba ( rumba@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Only people can oppress people.

  • ayyy ( ayyy@sh.itjust.works ) 
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    I’ve seen plenty of instances of people being treated unfairly and unjustly due to religious astrology beliefs. Especially women (of Indian descent, also Chinese but my experience is more limited there).

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