Hi, let me know if this is obviously stupid and won’t work. I’m an old pirate but obviously still pretty uneducated. I’ve got a dead torrent that’s a collection of roms. 4 seeders, 800 abandoned peers (ungrateful basterds). Seeders are rarely online or can’t provide more than 8% after a week. The roms are pretty mainstream and it’s strange for this torrent to have been abandoned.

If I can find find the exact releases of as many roms as possible in the collection from other singular sources, can I resurrect this torrent by just copy+overwrite into the unfinished folder? is it that simple or is this hubris? am I too old to be this stupid?

  • The files have to be exact copies of the originals so this usually isn’t possible. The only time I’ve ever had success with reviving torrents was by finding a DDL that miraculously hadn’t been deleted that was an archive of the original torrent. I found it by searching online for the exact name of the release.

    • so I got a copies from Vimm’s Lair to overwrite and bump up the progress on the torrent. but I just noticed the new files only show that they’re 99.3-99.7% after overwriting and rechecking the torrent. would this indicate that they’re the wrong hash afterall?

      • nya ( nya@lemmy.kya.moe ) 
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        I believe the 99.3-99.7% that means it’s the right hash, but because it doesn’t have the start/end of the next/previous file, the pieces that contain the edges of the rom aren’t complete (torrents are devided into pieces of 1MB/256kB/8MB/…)

        Could also be a small metadata error in the file though idk much about

      • IllNess ( IllNess@infosec.pub ) 
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        I seed but never created a torrent file. I wonder if there is a command to create a new hash to see if you can compare the old one with the new one. That way you can see if it truly is the same file.

  • Brickfrog ( brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    4 seeders

    4 seeds means it’s not actually a dead torrent. Slow uploading sure, but not dead. I’d suggest just leaving it alone, if it’s going at 8% per week it should finish on its own in roughly 13 weeks assuming the speeds don’t change much. That’s going to be a while but once you’ve got it you’ll be seed number 5 as long as you keep seeding it on your end.

    If I can find find the exact releases of as many roms as possible in the collection from other singular sources, can I resurrect this torrent by just copy+overwrite into the unfinished folder?

    Sure that may work in theory. Just keep in mind you’d need to find tons of ROM files that are exact bit-by-bit matches of the files in the torrent - otherwise overwriting mismatched data into your currently downloading torrent would make things slower for you since you’d now have to re-download that data to get back to 8% or whatever.

    EDIT: Looks like you lucked out, congrats seed #5 :)

    • TY! :D I DID luck out. the first version that worked came literally from Vimm’s Lair which doesn’t offer multiple releases but I do prefer to use over other places.

      you’re right, but the 8% stopped after the first day. it was dead since then. do some people only seed certain things on a rotation schedule?

      • Brickfrog ( brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        More likely those seeds are super-busy so it just takes a while to keep a consistent upload. these type of seeds tend to be on a ton of other low seed torrents. So any new seeds helps.

        And of course there’s the seeds that just don’t have great connections e.g. could be a laptop that is literally only online x hours a day or even week, or they can only upload at night or whatever.

        • ohhhh, that makes sense. yeah now that I’ve added this new files suddenly more seeds have showed up. also the number of peers has decreased to 1 (48). it seems like ever since I started using Tribbler as my client that these numbers fluxuate more than can be realistic

  • It is possible, I’ve done it myself. I had two dead torrents with 0 seeders that I really suspected were the exact same thing, so one day I changed the destination folders to point at the same place, it worked.

    What I don’t think I did is to have both torrents active at the same time while downloading.

  • vala ( vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    This is a neat idea and it will totally work, but they need to be the EXACT same files down to the checksums and file names. This could be harder to pull off than it sounds but it’s absolutely possible.