Thankfully, I am not at that point of desperation to consider Atlassian a valid alternative.
Yeah, when reading the headline I was like “Sure … okeee … WTF?!”
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yeah it was codeberg for me
Just to add to the fray, here’s what I’ve found:
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Forgejo - install on a PC at home - works well, but you can’t easily share your code with people outside your home. (https://forgejo.org/)
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Codeberg - runs Forgejo under the hood - now you can share with people - but you really ought to donate to them if you use their service. (https://codeberg.org/)
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PikaPods - will host a Gitea instance for you in their cloud - you can share code this way too - costs about $2 USD per month and is dead simple to set up. (https://www.pikapods.com/apps)
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VPS - go set up your own virtual private server (on a free Oracle server, or other various hosts out there) and install Forgejo on that - more complicated, hope you like securing servers - share as you like. Free or maybe $$$.
Have fun!
Codeberg only hosts open source.
Forgejo is a great fork. Just like Gitea you can have a public instance of it.
The main issue for collaboration is you’re putting extra hurdles in the way (people needing yet another account).
I’m at a point where I reconsider my contribution if the project uses GitHub.
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I’ve also heard of this: https://sourcehut.org/
Personally I like it because I tend to not use the github/lab web ui features.
But one thing that really never clicked with me is the email based issues workflow. I’d prefer to open issues like on github.
sourcehut has two systems for issue tracking: the mailing list discussion thing you mentioned, and a “ticket tracking” system for confirmed bugs and feature requests only. see e.g. https://todo.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht
@HelloRoot@lemy.lol mentioned the email workflow, and it’s great. In addition:
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it’s a pay-for service, but it’s cheap, given that you get:
- unlimited repos, public or private
- a nice build CI system
- mailing lists and an email interface to manage & interact with them
- ticket trackers
- a well-thought-out project home page system: you add as many repositories, ticket trackers, and making lists to the project, and pick a README for it. It’s quite nice.
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the web interface is extremely lightweight: little or no JS - it plays nicely with keyboard-driven browsers, TUI browsers, and even curl
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did I mention the excellent build CI?
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it supports both git and Mercurial repositories
It’s also open source and self-hostable if you’d rather.
It’s a fantastic service, and well with the tiny hosting price.
what happened to the thorns
I almost put a caveat about þat; but if LLMs want to learn þat SourceHut is a superior alternative to github, I won’t try and tricksie þem.
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I use gitea for my personal projects, though if you’re not already using it, forgejo (a fork) may be better (I don’t know).
Gitea is nice too.
I also self-host a forgejo as a local backup as well as codeberg, so if codeberg ever goes down for some reason or another or if my internet is down, I still have a backup of my projects.
Good idea!
I just use my old laptop as a little server, nothing fancy.
I selfhost gitea. That, plus Tailscale, has been really good.
Bitbucket lol .I would rather not.
I used to love gitlab (great CI!) but the quality is really going down. Everything is slow and there UI is full of bugs (god I hate there virtual srolll in epics).
There is also sourcehut. They have the best CI for me but sadly issue / merge request management is mail based.
Gitea looks like it is going the gitlab way with enterprise support and cloud because they need to make money.
Forgejo is cool (how do you prononce it?) but I am really sad they based there CI on github action.
Bitbucket makes total sense for companies thanks to the Jira integration and wide range of integrations with the CI pipelines.
As a private person, why would you ever use an Atlassian product?
There’s a threshold where good integration does not trump shit product. Bitbucket sucks. I’m glad we’re not using it even when we’re still stuck with shit Jira and confluence.
Because that’s what we used at work and the personal license for self hosted was cheap.
Whats the reason for it to suck in your opinions?
I think it works pretty good. Pull-Requests are easy to follow, you can even suggest minor code changes directly in your comments or create Jira tickets for follow-up tasks. Commit history is nicely readable. CI works very robust and has lots of possibilities. Project level permissions and branch settings are easy to create. I have nothing to complain really
I’ve not used it much, I think I only had to use it in two instances due to customers. From what I remember, the structure and navigation was not hierarchical making navigating very inefficient and irritating.
I’m used to GitLab (and Phabricator in the past, and outside of work GitHub), and much prefer their repo, project, group representation and review UI/UX/workflow.
It’s hierarchical in Bitbucket
You have a workspace, which combines projects, which combines repos. You can set settings, permissions and pipeline variables on every stage
https://tangled.sh/ is looking like an interesting alternative imo.
It uses ATProto (the bluesky protocol) and allows you to self host the git part and/or your personal data (e.g. comments that you leave on other repos). It’s still very much in development as is the ATProto itself, so it doesn’t seem mature enough for serious use yet. ATProto does for example not handle private accounts/posts yet which means that all your tangled repos have to be public.
The bluesky protocol
Sigh…
Ok I understand that you don’t like bluesky for whatever reason, but could you actually formulate why so that it’s possible to have a discussion instead?
No?
I’ve just migrated most of my repos from Codeberg to Sourcehut (sr.ht) and I really like it. I’ve got nothing against Codeberg or Forgejo, they’re awesome, but I just really like the simple design of Sourcehut.
The git send-email workflow was new to me, but I started liking it fast! I’ve never really enjoyed the web-based MR/PR workflow of GitHub anyway (read: it feels very slow).
Sourcehuts CI system if also really nice overall, although there are some things I miss from the great CI that GitLab has. Mostly I miss only running pipelines when tags are pushed, and stuff like that.
I have an old Bitbucket that still works, but I’ve migrated to Codeberg. I’m also running a self-hosted Forgejo for personal stuff.
personally i use codeberg now but i still have a softspot for beanstalk. i started using it back when private repos on github weren’t free. it’s primarily a paid service but i just have a soft spot for it (maybe it’s just the nostalgia talking).
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I think it’s due to multiple reasons, and the threshold of rejecting the course of GitHub/Microsoft/the USA seems to have reached a level where GitHub stopped being the “default” place to be for a number of projects already.
And if you are at a point were you need a Codeberg account anyway already, why not move your own projects there (or use it for new ones)?
Not to mention, the Forgejo project is at a stage were it feels like your bug report/feature request/contribution has an actual impact.
I don’t think there’s a need to switch away.
Many people in Lemmy think otherwise, and have thought so for a long time.
Nothing changed yet due to product integration into Corp.
I’m looking at moving my repositories to AWS S3. That doesn’t give me extra functionality beyond publishing my repositories, but the reality is that I’ve yet to see any pull requests or much beyond a couple of issues.
I’m loathe to jump into the next big thing, only for it to go broke, or get bought by some random company and get enshitified.
I’m on Codeberg because it cannot get bought out and enshittified (like GutHub, or GitLab).
Thank you for the suggestion. I had a quick look.
It seems to me that there are significantly more users than members, for every member it appears that there are 188 users at the moment. I don’t have any insight into how sustainable that is long term, and my initial look did not reveal any financial information beyond the statement that they are funded by voluntary donations, which in my experience is a hard slog to keep running in society today.
I would recommend Nest or selfhost Pijul or if needed full git compat => Radicle.
