People have been talking about this game my whole life and, Im finally going to take the time to try it since I just got it in the steam sale. Also recently many references are being made to draw parallels our current situation many people state that this game “predicted everything!”.
Any tips, tricks or external mods I should know before getting into it that will improve my experience or should the game be played as is? for reference I just purchased the Deus Ex GOTY edition
what do you rate this game overall? If I enjoy this game, are the sequels worth playing? If so which ones? What would you rate the sequels?
Spoilers are “okay” if they are required to answer any of my above questions but try to keep them minimal or at least tag the comment with a Spoiler warning. general discussion is okay too! Thanks for your input!
If you go in treating it like a standard FPS, you will be punished pretty hard until you level up for it. Stealth is really the best route for the beginning of the game. It’s a lot more brutal than the newer ones.
I’m pretty good at FPS games is it impossible or just unreasonable? am I limited by ammunition or my health pool and cover opportunities?
It might be borderline impossible? The accuracy of the weapons is heavily tied to your character skills, and even if you start off relatively good in guns, the accuracy is still wild as hell at anything beyond point blank ranges.
probably too deep of a question. but is there logic to the inaccuracy that i can compensate for? or is it seemingly full RNG? based on what you’re saying I’m guessing its full RNG
It’s based on the weapon skills. Definitely play the Training
I meant like in many FPS have recoil patters or crosshair spread that can be controlled by understanding the logic behind how the game is trying to make your shots inaccurate. might just have to test it in training to understand. I don’t expect anyone to know how such a minor detail works off the back of their hand.
It’s just random. When zoomed in, I believe the sway will pick a random direction to sway in and a random number of milliseconds to wait before picking a new random sway direction. But without a scope it’s just full random at the time of firing.
gotcha, I can see why stealth is so heavily promoted as a playstyle then at least for early game.
It’s not impossible or unreasonable. But I think the game is most fun when you play a mix of stealth and shooting, depending on situations, especially as your character gets stronger.
okay, Ill try and keep that in mind I really like what Im hearing about the stat progression. usually action rpgs do not make that very interesting
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the swimming comments are so confusing everyone is giving different opinions and not explaining lol.
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thank you, I might have leveled swimming and just waited for a section where itd finally be useful lol. worst case scenario Ill find the alternate paths on a second playthrough
For your first playthrough, use Zero Rando. GMDX and Revision change the game a lot.
https://mods4ever.com/project/DXRZeroRando
Also we have !deus_ex@lemmy.cafe
Odd, another user just stated that GMDX is more or less just a graphics and QOL overhaul. I might just have to read through the changes and decide for myself. I purposefully havent looked this stuff up myself to avoid spoilers, I might just have to bite the bullet.
GMDX has a huge number of gameplay and balance changes. Here are some of them: https://deusex.fandom.com/wiki/Give_Me_Deus_Ex_(Mod)
https://videogamegeek.com/thread/1831032/review-of-gmdx-mod-which-aims-at-modernizing-deus
I can try to grab some excerpts without spoilers…
GMDX offers new player mechanics, refined AI behavior, reworked weapon mechanics, rebalanced RPG elements, enhanced artistic direction, expanded level design, overhauled audio design, new interactions and simulated effects, improved user interface, and hundreds of bug fixes.
Messing with the design of Deus Ex may quickly hurt the experience. And that is what GMDX does.
In early areas, the changes that GMDX makes are minor, which is the reason for my early positive feeling on GMDX. In later areas, however, there are radical changes. The aim seems to have been to increase the difficulty. And it succeeds at that: the difficulty of GMDX is certainly quite a lot higher than the difficulty of Deus Ex. But higher difficulty does not make for a better game. That is particularly true because of the reasons why the game is more difficult with GMDX.
yeah you might be right, the entire new mechanics section might be more than what im looking for. and this line alone in the review “However, my overall impression is a negative one. GMDX unbalances Deus Ex from being a fun, accessible game to being a struggle.” Might have to save that for a 2nd or 3rd playthrough
@Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com is our resident DX expert, I have nothing much to add other than: listen to his advice.
dang bros got credentials hes the creator of a randomizer mod! very cool! didnt know my post was going to attract the big wigs. definitely will weigh his points heavier. although I definitely got the feeling he was a bit more versed in the game based on the fact that he gave me sources to check and even helped me by posting excerpts to avoid spoilers.
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Ironically I’m also a Linux user I will update the post or message you directly(whichever you prefer) If i find any launch options that will optimize the experience. I don’t expect issues since the game has a plat rating on protondb https://www.protondb.com/app/6910
cant help you with the steam controller part since I use mouse and keyboard but usually some dedicated fans create profiles for games+different controllers that you can add through steam.
Played through Deus Ex earlier this year with the Lay D Denton (female protag) mod. It’s amazingly integrated & gave such a fun spin on the existing game
Sweet, might have to give that a spin. Is it a total story rework or just a replaces the MC? with stat changes and skills etc?
Model replacement, voice acting update (uses line stitching for existing npc voices - I didn’t notice anything that drew me out of it), and a fully voiced protagonist. She does a great job! Voice Showcase
Oh man. I remember playing this game as a kid. It was awesome. I should.play it again.
Definitely get GMDX. They just released a new version a couple months ago. Lots of gameplay tweaks and a serious overhaul of textures. Definitely makes it worth playing.
awesome! looking for stuff just like this. out of curiosity Will reading the game play tweaks prior to playing spoil anything? also are there any major changes from the original works or is it purely aesthetic/QOL? Im worried im going to have a skyrim situation again where modders are just adding/changing things that do not fall within those categories.
Shouldn’t spoil anything and if you go with the defaults you’ll get pretty much the stock story just with better graphics and QOL tweaks. It’s been a couple years since I last played it but was getting ready to do another run through with the newest version.
Im getting conflicting info on this, another user is telling me that GMDX changes too much. Probably just going to have to read the changes for each suggested mod. Im just worried im going to read something that might otherwise have been a very interesting moment within gameplay.
I’m bad at video games so I had to use some cheats/mods to finish, but it was worth it.
no offense, but was It a puzzle problem or reactions and movement? Ive been known to miss the most obvious puzzle solutions so I might have to cheat a bit as well assuming I get frustrated enough.
Reactions. I liked playing stealth but there came a point where I couldn’t figure out how to avoid the fire fights and then I just died and died and died.
