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No one mentioning Le Chat for the LLM part?
Haven’t heard of that. Searched it and saw mistral ai. Is that the right one?
Yup. I really like it but admittedly use AI lightly
What’s the benefit to this one over others?
At the level I use it, nothing. There are people that seem to think the American ones are far ahead in their ability to deliver what you want but even more reason to have a viable European alternative
Yes it is
How and why is Signal not “American big tech”? It even runs on Amazon’ servers!
Exactly, putting Telegram under American big tech, but not Signal has to be a bad joke! Telegram has its issues, but being American big tech ain’t one of them!
It’s not big and it’s not for-profit.
Well does paying a CEO 1.000.000$ count as “big”, or “not for-profit”?
i didn’t find anything, can you provide a source.
Do they do that?
Can also recommend Qwant besides Ecosia.
For AI chatbots I’d recommend Ollama, Kobold.cpp or Llamafix.
for mail, Mailbox and Tuta are great too.
For delivery services, Bol.com is better indeed (has better labour rights too), but ideal is to just go shopping in the city itself. It benefits local smaller stores too!
For YouTube, I’d recommend PeerTube.
For OS, it depends on how well you know Linux types. If you’re new to Linux, and just want something that works, Linux Mint.
In general, the best bet would be as decentralised, open source, and horizontally organised as possible. Defederate from large companies. The less chance then, that a bad agent will be able to embrace, extend, and extinguish.
i had a bad experience with Qwant, i also wanna try peertube but they gotta let me make an account😭
Peertube is like lemmy federates, i’m sure tgere is a distribution that let you make an account
What was the bad experience?
it wouldnt give me what i was looking for
You coule just follow Peertube channels from Mastodon if you can’t find an instance that you like.
Bitwarden is from the US. KeePass would be an alternative. But ProtonPass ist great. Nice List.
Ecosia is debatable. Also, why the fuck would you introduce Arch Linux as an alternative for Windows?? Start them with Mint/Fedora/Ubuntu.
He wrote “what he personally uses” not what he recommends.
Not bad, but keep in mind thay Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot.
They’re using Signal though, not Telegram.
Which is American…
opensource and privacy focused :3
Signal is opensource in the same way TiVo was GPL compliant.
Hey thanks for the comment. Might you explain a little bit more? I’m just curious to learn more
The Signal app is open source but forking it and connecting it to Signal servers (signal it’s centralised) is againt their TOS
Do you know the term TiVoization? Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization
Signal is opensource, but you can’t use your fork in the official server. You can use it on your forked server, but then you can’t communicate with anyone that’s not on your server. So being opensource is just a marketing tool. There’s also no way of knowing if the binaries distributed were produced with the source code they published. There’s no advantage whatsoever to be opensource for the user. So “opensource” in this case is just a marketing term, like the in case of TiVo.
Looks like he updated the list, good stuff anyway.
Update, but it appears that Trump’s Gestapo now has access to Graphite, which is Israeli spyware, designed with zero-day exploits. Apparently it can also hack Signal.
What we need is to criminally prosecute all who circumvent robust privacy laws using third countries. Especially companies and secret services. And if that means we need to arrest prime ministers, so be it. If Israel’s terrorist Mossad arrests people on other countries’ borders, who’s to say we cannot do the same for their fascist terrorist leaders?
i would change:
- signal to something else that wouldn’t use amazon servers.
- HERE maps to mapy.com. HERE maps aren’t very good since they don’t use OSM data
What about the fact that basically ALL entire planet goes through either Cloudflare or Akamai’s infrastructure? I wonder if it is even possible to not use those, even unwillingly
ALL entire planet
Not the all planet but a big portion yes. There’s a firefox extension that helps with that: Decentraleyes.
Don’t let the good be an enemy of the excelent. There’s some stuff that’s unavoidable, but every tiny bit helps.
Appreciated as tried here we go and couldn’t get on with it. Will try mapy
It will always depend on your requirements. Mapy is from a czech company. They have some cool features (like trips, gpx export, directions, reviews), however if you don’t need them, then using a simpler opensource solution might be better for you.
Thanks, Ill give it a go and see. You could be right, this is more than I need
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Don’t use Bol. They rip you off exactly the same as Amazon, even though you find the exact same product from exact same factory listed on Temu/Ali at 10% of the cost.
I generally recommend to avoid Dutch retail. East European retails tend to be more efficient, though still not as efficient as the Chinese.
Any recommendations for the east european retail? I’ve ordered way too much from amazom and bol
It’s a shame they have started selling more and more of that unbranded cheap stuff. They didn’t use to do that but it’s hard to find quality items now. I guess it started since they started allowing other sellers to sell their stuff on their webshop.
I wouldn’t say Bol.com is a good alternative to Amazon as their terms towards sellers is quite toxic, but I also wouldn’t know any other alternative either.
Bol.com has been infested with drop shippers using ai, try searching for “aanpassing titel” lol. Besides, because of their “free shipping”, most products are actually more expensive because they have the shipping price included, and you can buy it for less directly from the seller’s own website.
otto.de if you live in Germany, Austria or Switzerland.
For mail I can also recommend https://soverin.com/
i’ve never heard of here wego, but i cannot find it on fdroid, is it open-source? is it openstreat map based?
here wego isnt opensource, but it is european (from the netherlands)
isn’t opensource and also not openstreetmap. I use Comaps
telegram isn’t american though? it’s lead by a gifted high iq autist who lives in france?
True, but it almost certainly has backdoors for the non-private chats, so same reason to avoid it as US tech.
for me they can read my chats for unlimited storage space, movies, mp3s
too useful
The popups, ads, and nags about disabling ad blocker on Ecosia… Ehh…
Great suggestions! Also ios/android -> e/os (by murena)
Is that fully functional, and works with mainstream apps?
I only had it on my new Fairphone 6 for about a month. I’m a longtime iPhone user and find it suiting my needs perfectly.
I am using in on my FP3+ for about 4 years. The only app that didn’t work for me was myswimpro and I suppose it is because I am blocking ads/trackers at network level. Biometrical login to my bank app doesn’t work (the app doesn’t allow it, rather).
No other problems so far.
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