• Geth ( Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Who are all these people that have outlets next to where they usually use a phone and can use a 1m cable? All my cables are 2m because power sockets tend to be near the ground and phones and other items you charge tend to live on tables, desks and shelves. I don’t understand why the USB spec considers 1m to be enough for anything.

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      The length limit is because the data rates are so high in USB 3.2 that timing is very tight and signal integrity degrades very quickly with natural cable capacitance. Charging via USB-PD does not have the same limitations, but it’s suffering from the one-cable-does-it-all nature of USB-C

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      There are these nifty little devices that let you extend and even multiply your wall outlets away from the wall. I have one attached to my nightstand and one on my desk. Both also have USB outlets so no need for adapers.

      A pro tip is to run one of these genious things behind your media furniture so you no longer need to plug every single device into their own wall socket.

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          Ackchyually they’re both. They convert AC to DC, and adapt Schuko (in my case) to USB. They’re most commonly called adapters though. People will look at you funny if you call them converters.

          IKEA electronics are pretty safe to use. They’re quick to recall any failing product and don’t want a loss leader like power strips or power-adapters to be a drain on their reputation. Just by the shear amount they sell, issues will become apparent quickly.

      • Geth ( Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        I feel like having to hug a power socket constantly is a worse solution to just having all my USB cables be 2m long especially if you want a clean desk.

        For example this setup is not possible with just 1m if you actually want to also use the phone

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    I don’t give a shit about what fairphone does anymore. They removed the headphone jack to follow trends and sell their own pos wireless earbuds.

    Just another company attempting to leverage its green messages to get more sales.

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      No organisation is perfect but to use this one point as a reason they are evil is absurd. No one else seems to make a product that is anywhere near as sustainable, environmentally conscious and ethical. You gotta pick your battles and imo this is a battle for when the whole industry has taken up fairphone’s standards

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        Never called them evil. Id probably put it closer to misguided.

        They are battling for industry standards? Yet they just follow the industry trend?? Which is it? imo you can’t have both.

        It just informed me of the fact they if they were tasked with doing something for their consumers and longevity or doing something for their bottom line they are gonna pick their bottom line. Right now most their bottom line benefits from being “eco aware” telling you they will be in it for the long haul. But I don’t really trust that will always be the case cause they already showed what corner they thought they could cut and still keep users “happy”. Influence And Money destroys most.

        Wireless headphones are destined to be landfill waste practically from the day they are made. Just because they made theirs a little user serviceable doesn’t negate the fact that when the Bluetooth codec on em gets too old or incompatible they will be trash. Unlike wired headphones which don’t need to rely on any of that and can last basically as long as you take care of them or the physical materials degrade.

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          I don’t think they blindly follow the trend to remove the headphone jack. They said they did it cause it free up space, make it a bit cheaper, and make it a bit easier to engineer the device for their small team. I think those are fair arguments and better than apple just saying “it took courage” and do little else with it.

          They have literally kept repairability the same throughout their phones (and now other devices). They have also kept replacements parts and sending out some software updates for their old phones too. Imo, they have yet to compromise on their core promise.

          One day Bluetooth may not be backwards compatible but to my knowledge that has not happened for over 10 years. I have a Bluetooth speaker from 2014 that still connects to every Bluetooth device. Unfortunately the battery on that is shit now and I can’t replace it… So it will go to the landfill soon. If fairphone made that speaker then I could still use it. Playing down replaceable batteries in fp’s headphones is crazy. I would agree, however, that their headphones (especially the in ears) should be better so that people actually want to keep them.

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      Thats quite unlikely, try to find a usb c cable that actually speaks 40 gig or at least 20 like this one, they are a bit cheaper what fairphone is asking, but the cables that can actually deliver are quite pricey. The cheap ones you see only do 480 mbit or power online and not 240 watts

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          Sure buy that thing, but 240watts is lots of power in a small diameter, that’s surely were you trust the cheapest biddet am i right. People in the oh so trust worthy comments note that it does not quite deliver the speed but seems to be up to speed… Or at least the first batch did

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            Hm, I mean expensive brand products often enough still fail spectacularly or are revealed to be produced from the same factory as the cheap products, so price alone isn’t a trustworthy decider.

            On that front Fairphones certification is actually good.

            Hey, I’m not saying I’m not willing to pay extra for proven quality and fair working conditions, I just think that 6 times more is too much more.