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Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca )  to Lemmy.ca's Main Community@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 year ago

Should Lemmy.ca defederate from Maga Place?

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Should Lemmy.ca defederate from Maga Place?

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Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca )  to Lemmy.ca's Main Community@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • m-p{3} ( mp3@lemmy.ca ) 
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    🚮

    • Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      Let’s go!

    • tiberius ( tiberius@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Will piefed.ca follow suit?

      • m-p{3} ( mp3@lemmy.ca ) 
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        piefed.ca is also set to auto-defederate from any instance defederated by: lemmy.ca.

  • owenfromcanada ( owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca ) 
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    As both a Canadian and an American, yes please. Nothing good comes out of MAGA.

  • IndridCold ( IndridCold@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Fuck them. Lemmy is Canadian.

    MAGA, the people who want to make Canada their 51st state, can fuck right off.

    However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech. Their Orange god is completely against free speech. They should embrace that instead.

    Edit: Sorry. I misunderstood how this maga place this was hosted when I made the comment. I thought it was on lemmy.ca but I see now how it’s hosted and shared.

    • ReversalHatchery ( ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) 
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      However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.

      Canadian servers? what do you mean? fedidb does not show server location to me

      • OpenStars ( OpenStars@piefed.social ) 
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        This is a 1-day-old account and they also said “Lemmy is Canadian”, so I’m presuming that they think that defederation means to remove this like it were a community.

        Although even so they aren’t wrong: federation with Lemmy.ca means to help spread their messages using Canadian servers:-).

    • cyborganism ( cyborganism@piefed.ca ) 
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      However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.

      No, actually they have their own server which is maga.place.

      In the Fediverse, independent servers automatically synchronize with each other to publish their content. However, it is possible to cut the link with another server to avoid its publications from showing up on our own server.

      • IndridCold ( IndridCold@lemmy.ca ) 
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        No, actually they have their own server which is maga.place

        I see that now. I misunderstood how they were hosted.

  • Mx. Eddie R ( silvermoon82@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yes, please.

  • cecilkorik ( cecilkorik@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yes. Build a wall.

    • twopi ( twopi@lemmy.ca ) 
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      And make MAGA pay for it!

      proceeds to send them the invoice

      • SanctimoniousApe ( SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world ) 
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        Good luck with that - Trump never pays his bills, & I expect no different from MAGAts.

  • ZeroCool ( ZeroCool@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yes, this shouldn’t even be a discussion. There’s no room at the table for fascists.

  • i_stole_ur_taco ( i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I vote yes.

    We don’t need to federate with a safe space for spreaders of hate and conspiracy theories.

    At worst, that instance will become another Grad with trolls that piss everyone off. At best, it’ll be a cluster of people and content I’m just going to block anyway.

  • don ( don@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yes please, no point in taking any chances.

  • k0e3 ( k0e3@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yep. Fuck em

  • chisel ( chisel@piefed.social ) 
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    Defederate from 1 user? 🤣

    • Sunshine (she/her) ( Sunshine@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      It’s always good to self contain problems before they get worse.

      • ZeroCool ( ZeroCool@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn.

        • stardust ( stardust@lemmy.ca ) 
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          Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection.

          That’s the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending.

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            The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it’s um, it’s probably a fed.

          • SharpIntroduction75 ( SharpIntroduction75@lemmy.ca ) 
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            If lemmy doesn’t want to do it then everyone should stand together and block them. We can force defederation.

          • GreyEyedGhost ( GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ) 
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            I wouldn’t call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn’t what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation.

            • stardust ( stardust@lemmy.ca ) 
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              He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science.

              What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn’t care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes.

              • GreyEyedGhost ( GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ) 
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                Okay, that’s fair.

    • cyborganism ( cyborganism@piefed.ca ) 
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      To be fair, there’s @fuckamerica@maga.place that’s been a real trooper on that instance and posting anti-fascist stuff all over the place. The whole instance has been flooded by them lol!

      Maybe that’s what we should do, just turn it into an anti-Maga instance by flooding it with anti-fascist posts and comments.

  • RiceBowl ( RiceBowl@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.

    • Wikipedia
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      ![(https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/6058c6dc-0505-42ce-a732-f89b9f19e5ac.jpeg)]

  • Tollana1234567 ( Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ) 
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    any instance they label themselves maga are usually up to no good, its a launch point for trolling/russian backed propaganda.

  • cyborganism ( cyborganism@piefed.ca ) 
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    Should Lemmy.ca defederate from a Nazi instance? Yes. Let’s not have their fascist propaganda leak into our instances.

    • Slyke ( slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Curious. I just a quick scan on their instance and see no Nazi stuff. Got any examples?

      • cyborganism ( cyborganism@piefed.ca ) 
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        They deleted one of the communities that had a rainbow confederate flag with Nazi swastikas on it.

        • PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ( PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk ) 
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          So they’re actively moderating their instance and removing objectionable material. that’s a good thing.

          • eronth ( eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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            Yeah, but the question remains of which half of that they found objectionable.

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        Curious. Curious.

        Who else was famous for saying “curious”?

        • SparroHawc ( SparroHawc@lemmy.zip ) 
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          https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-somewhat

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  • altkey (he\him) ( altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    ArtemZ

    FYI, their single mod/admin uses slav name Artem + Z letter associated with pride in russian modern war efforts. I don’t think it’s genuine. Probably a prep for some concern trolling campaign in the future or whatever that was discovered (c/antifa) by a shitposter, or, I suppose, their alt persona for different usecases.

    • [object Object] ( panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ) 
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      It is super clear to me it’s just a troll. A committed troll.

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    I think everyone should. that’s the whole point of having a decentralized federation system: different people on different instances can decide what’s to Nazi for them to tolerate. Not like Xitter where one dude decides what’s the acceptable level of Nazi everyone should see every day.

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