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Karna ( KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml )  to Linux@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Bytedance Proposes "Parker" For Linux: Multiple Kernels Running Simultaneously

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Bytedance Proposes "Parker" For Linux: Multiple Kernels Running Simultaneously

www.phoronix.com

Karna ( KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml )  to Linux@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • Infrapink ( Infrapink@thebrainbin.org ) 
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    They call it Parker because it’s almost, but not quite, the right thing.

    • RiverRabbits ( RiverRabbits@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      I know that Square you’re talking about!

  • geneva_convenience ( geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Docker has little overhead and wouldn’t this require running the entire kernelmultiple times, take up more RAM?

    Also dynamically allocating the RAM seems more efficient than having to assign each kernel a portion at boot.

    • trevor (any/all)  ( trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      If this works out, it’s likely something that container engines would take advantage of as well. It may take more resources to do (we’ll have to see), but adding kernel isolation would make for a much stronger sandbox. Containers are just a collection of other isolation tools like this anyway.

      gvisor already exists for environments like this, where the extra security at the cost of some performance is welcome. But having support for passing processes an isolated, hardened kernel from the primary running Linux kernel would probably make a lot of that performance gap disappear.

      I’m also thinking it could do wonders for compatibility too, since you could bundle abandoware apps with an older kernel, or ship new apps that require features from the latest kernel to places that wouldn’t normally have those capabilities.

  • HiddenLayer555 ( HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ) 
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    If we’re going to this amount of trouble, wouldn’t it be better to replace the monolithic kernel with a microkernel and servers that provide the same APIs for Linux apps? Maybe even seL4 which has its behaviour formally verified. That way the microkernel can spin up arbitrary instances of whatever services are needed most.

  • somerandomperson ( somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    GTFO, you’re the brainrot ai slop hosting TikTok company.

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    deleted by creator

  • IrritableOcelot ( IrritableOcelot@beehaw.org ) 
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    I mean isn’t this just Xen revisited? I don’t understand why this is necessary.

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