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cyrano ( cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to datahoarder@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Fire destroys Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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Fire destroys Korean government's cloud storage system, no backups available

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cyrano ( cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to datahoarder@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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NIRS fire destroys government's cloud storage system, no backups available
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A fire at the National Information Resources Service (NIRS) Daejeon headquarters destroyed the government’s G-Drive cloud storage system, erasing work files saved individually by some 750,000 civil servants.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/658762

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  • Dingaling ( digdilem@lemmy.ml ) 
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    As a sysadmin that’s pretty much my worst nightmare. I really feel for those trying to pick the pieces back up again after that.

    • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      A nice clean start on a fresh install.

    • TheOakTree ( TheOakTree@lemmy.zip ) 
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      You know for a fact that the people doing the largest share of the recovery effort have nothing to do with the decision to have no backups.

      …but with the way social/work hierarchies work in SK, it was probably never brought up.

      • Dingaling ( digdilem@lemmy.ml ) 
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        You know for a fact that the people doing the largest share of the recovery effort have nothing to do with the decision to have no backups.

        Exactly. How they got there is no consolation to those dealing with it now.

  • Zwuzelmaus ( Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ) 
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    Korean government’s

    South.

    (Just in case anybody else isn’t a clairvoyant either)

  • thingsiplay ( thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 
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    Always have two backups in different places than the original. If not, the least you can do is have one backup copy. How does the government don’t have such thing?

    • unexpected ( unexpected@forum.guncadindex.com ) 
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      Government people get jobs by schmoozing and making deals, not by merit or skill.

      Pournelle’s Law always seems relevant.

      • smh ( smh@slrpnk.net ) 
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        Ooh, ooh! I’m in that law! I’m in the (to paraphrase) “competent and devoted to the goal but unempowered” group!

      • Corridor8031 ( Corridor8031@lemmy.ml ) 
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        deleted by creator

        • unexpected ( unexpected@forum.guncadindex.com ) 
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          No.

          But it does give more options to work around or not support those entities since they don’t have as much direct authority.

    • HubertManne ( HubertManne@piefed.social ) 
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      I have one backup but keep legacy things so that in a massive disaster I still have archives that have some of my important long term type documents. So figure one up to date backup and in a disaster I have stuff from last year.

  • morto ( morto@piefed.social ) 
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    Hmm a system that stored government documents caught fire and they have no backups? Hmm, this carries the same energy of registry offices catching fire “spontaneously” in the past.

  • Majestic ( Majestic@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Perhaps contained evidence against the former PM who tried to do a military coup and this is the way of getting rid of it? Perhaps protecting co-conspirators if not the top guy.

  • Anna ( AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Yeah who needs proper DR. it’s not like disasters ever happen.

  • Supermikea ( Supermikea@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Even though they historically used to have a great backup system for their historians and government records.

    see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritable_Records_of_the_Joseon_Dynasty

  • jlow (he / him) ( jlow@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Kein Backup, kein Mitleid!

  • Kissaki ( Kissaki@feddit.org ) 
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    Too slow storage to back up? What a stupid, false reason. I assume nobody works at night. Do something else than full backups and you at least have something. A simple differential update replication would have saved them here.

    • thingsiplay ( thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 
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      Or do it by priority. Files that change often or are very important are copied fully often, maybe daily. A differential update of all files could follow daily or who knows weekly. Its the government, they should have money to add more storage, so that shouldn’t be the problem. At least some strategy to manage slow speed, instead not having ANY backup its the dumbest thing I’ve read from governments in a while.

  • copyscam ( copyscam@lemmy.ml ) 
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    saw a sticker recently that said “there is no cloud, just other people’s computers”

  • Ardens ( Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml ) 
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    You do know that there’s two korean countries, right?

    • AntiOutsideAktion ( AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml ) 
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      What are you talking about? There’s one Korea and half of it is occupied by an imperialist army.

      Am I on .world? Why are people downvoting objective reality?

      • Ardens ( Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Oh, so they share their passport, their borders, their economy and so forth? Do you also believe that all countries that speak English, is the UK? or US?

        • SpookyBogMonster ( SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml ) 
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          You can accept or reject the claim that South Korea is an imperialist outpost of the US. I don’t care about that right now.

          But you do know that nothing in OPs comment implies that the two korea’s share passports or anything like that, right? Like, come on, these are basic reading comprehension skills.

          • Ardens ( Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml ) 
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            And you simply don’t get the point, that there are two “Korea” and that it would be prudent to say which one you are talking about. That’s beyond your basic comprehension skills.

        • AntiOutsideAktion ( AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Why do I have to put up with this kind of feigned ignorance after being made to look at maps that include Crimea in Ukraine for like a decade now?

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