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Stamets ( Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Cool Guides@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 year ago

Animal meats banned in Judaism vs Islam

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Animal meats banned in Judaism vs Islam

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Stamets ( Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to Cool Guides@lemmy.caEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Greg Clarke ( Greg@lemmy.ca ) 
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    This image has like a dozen pixels

  • lugal ( lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Mice (when dead)

    So it’s only ok to eat a mouse alive?

    • Greg Clarke ( Greg@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Chew softly, you don’t want the mouse to die before you swallow it

  • boredsquirrel (he) ( boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net ) 
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    Not eating random animals because of religion is such a stupid concept

    Like, there is no big difference between a camel and a cow

    I say that as a vegan, which is a choice that makes sense in comparison ;)

    • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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      There probably is (believed to be, at the time) a difference. Most of these rules aren’t really spiritual. They’re about health. Most of the time the banned animals are thought to be dirty and spread disease. Pigs, for example, because of their proximity to humans, as well as small enclosures, often carry diseases that are harmful to people. That’s why it’s frequently banned in religions.

      This is well before germ theory or anything though, so they’re just guesses based on trends. They’re sometimes wrong, but they were trying to create rules to keep people healthy.

      • djsaskdja ( djsaskdja@reddthat.com ) 
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        Health or culture more than religion in some cases. Same reason we don’t eat horses, cats, and dogs in the west. They’re companion species for us the same as some of these are for them.

        • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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          The horses thing I think is specifically an American and English thing though I think, but yeah.

          • Tomato666 ( Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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            You can eat horse in France

            • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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              IIRC, Germany, Italy, and Spain too. Pretty much all of “the west” It’s fine and not that abnormal besides England and the US.

      • boredsquirrel (he) ( boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net ) 
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        Yes for sure. But well the border between science and religion should always be updated and moved

        • leMe ( leMe@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          Sure, and there are religious ppl who update their beliefs based on changes on society, discovery in science, …

          but there are religious nuts who stick to taking 2000+ years old stories and insist on taking them literally. actively ignoring facts that where known back then. one example is numbers: there are places where religious stories mention specific numbers (10’000, 1’000’000, don’t remember and won’t look it up). people back then used these as “too many to count” or “really much”. but some ppl nowadays insist, that whatever their god is made sure, that these numbers are exactly the correct number…

          • dubyakay ( dubyakay@lemmy.ca ) 
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            If the Pope can be a quasi-guiding figure head for most Christians (not just Catholics) to drive change, Islam and Judaism desperately need one.

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      It starts off as a reason and becomes religious tenet, and everyday me forgets the reason

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    why would anyone even try to eat a scorpion?

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    • ComradeSharkfucker ( sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Good texture tbh but I am aware I might be weird for this one

    • Malgas ( Malgas@beehaw.org ) 
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      I mean, they do kind of resemble lobster or crayfish, which are delicious.

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    Jackdaws taste terrible anyway

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      Fuck you’ve discovered my real identity

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    Jews don’t eat chicken?

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      Every bird is a bird of prey. Just let them get hungry enough.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting_and_abstinence_in_the_Catholic_Church

    The Catholic Church observes the disciplines of fasting and abstinence (from meat) at various times each year.

    The current, commonly accepted U.S. rules, in effect as such for a decade or more, taken directly from the current U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) Fast and Abstinence page are:[45][9]

    Ash Wednesday and Good Friday are obligatory days of fasting and abstinence for Catholics. In addition, Fridays during Lent are obligatory days of abstinence.

    For members of the Latin Catholic Church, the norms on fasting are obligatory from age 18 until age 59. When fasting, a person is permitted to eat one full meal, as well as two smaller meals that together are not equal to a full meal. The norms concerning abstinence from meat are binding upon members of the Latin Catholic Church from age 14 onwards.

    While the rules of abstinence generally only allow seafood, there are a few exceptions. In parts of South America, especially in Venezuela, capybara meat is popular during Lent and Holy Week; in response to a question posed by French settlers in Quebec in the 17th century, beaver was classified as an exception, as it classified the swimming creature with fish.[23][24][25] Similarly unusual classifications of “fish” for fur traders near Detroit have led to a local tradition of eating muskrat during Lent.[26][27] The Archbishop of New Orleans said that “alligator is considered in the fish family” in 2010.[28][29][30] The legal basis for the classification of capybara, beaver, and muskrat as fish probably rests with the Summa Theologica of Thomas Aquinas, which bases animal classification as much on habit as anatomy.[31]

    The Filet-O-Fish was introduced by McDonald’s to accommodate Catholics who abstained from meat on Fridays.[16][1

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    Apparently the philosophical basis behind the prohibitions itself differs. IIRC, if someone hypothetically engineered a vegetable including pig genes, it would be kosher but not halal.

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    Both are more based than christians and atheists in this regard.

    Jainism doesn’t allow for any animal products except dairy.

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    I don’t see humans banned on either side.

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