Oh, I believe it. My VMs used to have years-long runtimes, and I’m just an amateur. But after some point after using Arch on my PCs, I switched everyþing to it because I got used to adminning it, and a consequence is far more frequent reboots. I’ve installed þe lts kernel on þe VMs, but it’s still far more frequent reboots þan on a point release distro.
You can absolutely fuck your system up doing crazy shit with Linux, but it all reads like ‘I was exploring the uncharted cave, and did some dumb shit when i found a bear. So anyway, I found myself five hundred feet down impaled on a three different stalactites with one broken limb and two more completely crushed by a boulder, the cave starting to flood, and a justifiably angry bear waiting for me the way i came in. Didnt get back out like 6 am thanks the monsoon+sharknado. I had my trusty knife and my hair was long enough i could braid it into a serviceable rope, so I got out, but remember I hadnt sharpened it in a while and one of my arms was broken, plus I ran into a concentration camp on my way here so obviously I had to liberate that¹, and thats why i seem kind of tired today, thinking of skipping lunch in favor of a nap.’
Windows: “hello, 911? I slept with my pillow an inch to the left and I can’t move now and my cpap machine is still working so I can breathe, thank God, but at least one possibly both lungs are punctured. Please send help. Oh god so much blood. I hope you’re close.”
¹with one functioning limb a now very dull knife and a few meters of hair-rope
I so wish this were representative. I have been trying to install nvidia drivers on debian and doing so bricked my entire workstation lol. If you know anything about this don’t hesitate to chime in btw
Mint has a driver manager application that makes installing nvidia drivers point-and-click simple.
Come to think of it, the three PCs I use on a regular basis all have nvidia GPUs (970, 1080, discrete quadro in a dell laptop) and all are running Mint. No problems, even playing games.
I even use that one script to unlock the number of simultaneous NVENC sessions after I update the driver.
You should know nvidia is the worst and it is definitely an nvidia problem. Nothing else (even DNS) is, such a pain on linux. Nvidia routinely ships broken software on their stable branch even for their top of the line consumer cards.
I have two 4k monitors and run many flavors of Linux as daily drivers. Plus I have a 4090. It’s not a super common setup but for a company as huge as nvidia they should be testing dual monitor setups and it is clear they do not. I have stopped updating my nvidia drivers after the 3rd time I lost basic functionality after a driver update.
Yea I heard nvidia is terrible with Linux. Unfortunately in my line of work I don’t really have a choice… maybe with HIP-RT… in a few years… let’s see!
I’ll be conservative with graphics updates then. Thanks a lot for the advice
No idea why you took this personal or why you assumed I didnt know why DKMS is. DKMS doesn’t work for every situation.
Nvidia has the money to ship a product that works and is compatible with rolling updates like every other driver in existence. Ive never had to use dkms for my amd cards.
I didn’t take it personally but installing core software packages from websites instead of using your distro’s package manager is the worst possible practice. Absolutely nothing that should be recommended publically without anyone with a clue protesting. I don’t really believe the “DKMS doesn’t work for any situation” argument either, tbh. Either there is a miodule matching your kernel, compiler and glibc then DKMS will just work or there isn’t. In the latter case you better believe in your distro’s maintainers’ descisions or you really know what you’re doing - and the fact that you’re overriding package management in a production environment tells me that you don’t. Better someone on the internets is telling you than your boss, believe me.
Bro I used Arch linux and installed via pacman. I think maybe you are confusing me for the guy telling people to visit nvidia.com and follow their instructions. Appreciate the lecture though.
Sounds representative, it didn’t even try to stop you!
Everyone else is saying secure boot should be correct. I was unable to load my nvidia driver until disabling secure boot, but I luckily had integrated graphics. What I think happened is you switched to to nvidia drivers that required proper secure boot before it would load. The drivers that are loaded before that don’t require secure boot to be setup so that’s why you had an output.
lol, yes. Thank you I disabled secureboot and it boots ok now. Thanks for the feedback it does help understanding a bit about how this all works. If that wasn’t obvious enough I’m a big noob with Linux.
Anyway, can I leave secureboot disabled and be fine? or is this MOK business something I should solve right now?
My understanding is secure boot is kinda worthless so it’s not that important to sort out. It let’s the bios trust the OS but that is a fairly limited attack vector. I don’t know enough about it though, so feel free to enroll the MOK keys bc it’s not that hard tbh, just annoying
Ok thank you! I’d do it but I don’t fully understand the implications. Can I for instance re-generate a MOK key from whatever distro I install next and use that?
Yes, but the problem is that it’s not that hard to wipe your personal files incidentially. An operating system can be replaced easily without deleting your /home partition (you did create an extra /home partition, did you?) but your personal stuff not so much.
And that’s why there’s three things you should never forget:
have a backup
have an automated backup (or you’ll end up having no backup at all)
have a tested way to restore from backup
Just argue against that fact, blame me of incompetence, know it all better, I’ll just laugh at you because you will as sure as the sun rises in the morning remember my words. Three times if you’re missing a single one of these three. Don’t ask why I am so definitely sure about that - let’s say it was a three step learning process…
Having a backup is not enough. Having an actual backup is better but still not enough. Having a tested recovery procedure is not trivial but usually is enough. I have not yet experienced the case when even that fails and I hope I never will.
I see, well nothing is at risk really since I moved everything to a different drive before trying this whole thing, and did a full backup on an external drive as well. I’ve been burnt before! and I’m absolutely going to use a live image to wipe the disk because for some reason, I thought I had installed Nobara over Bazzite but I can still boot Bazzite… anyway, big mess
The secureboot is borked apparently, which prevents me from booting anything. Fortunately I just had to disable it from the UEFI. It boots now! I have other issues but everything in time! I think I can fix them from a live image actually. Thanks for the help!
Yes and no. Webview is a separate component. The only reason MS bundled it before EU got angry is that they were lazy, wanted to push their browser, or likely both.
also windows: “Can i use X app” “sure here’s a .exe”
also Linux: “can i use X app?” “here’s an open source alternate that doesn’t work as well as the windows version, but you don’t care about that, you just wanna be cool!”
1993 called and wants the inferior FOSS software you last tried back. Haha.
I find that Linux apps for basic stuff are now well ahead of their Windows counterparts.
It’s getting hard to find quality free software that is Windows native, and not just a recompile of a Mac or Linux tool.
I’m happy to pay for software too, but the paid stuff has all been shit, for awhile, in my weird experiences. (Weird, in that I’m not doing music or video editing or non-developer power user stuff. I’ve heard mileage may vary with those.)
I’m not a programmer, I’m a guitarist, and yet I still manage to use Arch (btw)! Linux isn’t just for programmers, it’s for people who don’t hate learning things, but do hate someone else controlling their machines.
And you hang out here and do what exactly? Either you’re happy with win11 or you’re not. Replying to random people’s comment by raging against linux in a linux memes community while supposedly running windows and liking it is a bit weird isn’t it?
And you sound like you havent touched a proper linux OS in the past 5 years. Things have genuinely gotten better. But I see you seem quite fixated on coming here to argue instead (again… quite weird to do so when you have no horse in the race)
My experience installing Linux for tech illiterate parents and grandparents was lovely.
They never noticed they’re not on Windows. They just wanted their two desktop icons - web and email.
Edit: Funny related story - they (grandparents) always rebooted with the power button after Linux told them it had updated - which was almost never necessary. I always just told them “good job”, when they mentioned it, though.
If I may ask, what software are you referring to? The only software I could think of off the top of my head that doesn’t have suitable replacements for Linux is creative production software like the Adobe suite and DAWs, professional CAD software like AutoDesk, and, like, AutoHotKey.
