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Secret_Music ( Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.caEnglish ·
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A reminder that it's always been this way, the manosphere is just the latest version of it

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A reminder that it's always been this way, the manosphere is just the latest version of it

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Secret_Music ( Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone )  to Witches VS Patriarchy@lemmy.caEnglish ·
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  • Hazel ( Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone ) 
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    I don’t get it, both are cool?

    • Secret_Music ( Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone ) OP
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      I would say that the point is this kind of sentiment from the manosphere, for example just these quotes by Andrew Tate:

      Look familiar? Good for you if you get to live your middle upper class cottagecore dream with a hipster lumberjack that brings home everything you’ll ever need. That definitely sounds pretty awesome.

      But mostly this is about control and power of men over women, especially for women that aren’t in the economic class to get to have shelves of unread books and the luxury of spending all of their time doing arts and crafts and making tiktok videos.

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        We shouldn’t publicize Andrew Tate, he’s like a malware virus

        • Secret_Music ( Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone ) OP
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          I understand the sentiment but also, I should think a community called “Witches vs Patriarchy” would actually involve the “vs Patriarchy” part and not just be another !witchymemes@lemmy.world. And Andrew Tate is like everything wrong with the patriarchy rolled into one and one of the poster boys for it these days. So it comes with the discussion.

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  • twice_hatch ( twice_hatch@midwest.social ) 
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    It’s over, I’ve already depicted you as dancing the Charleston

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      And I’ve depicted myself as the noble Zither player

    • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      And playing bridge??

      *clutches pearls*

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    Ya know, I’m not so sure that the old comic is necessarily just criticizing flapper girls. The way I understand the bottom text is “These are the qualities that women of these generations need to have to make men want to marry them”, so I think it’s also saying that the young men nowadays have wacky tastes as well.

    If you want to be even more charitable, which is probably undeserved I know, there’s nothing explicitly written in the comic to indicate that the artist thinks one side is necessarily better than the other, just that things are different now than they used to be. It’s possible that it was created by a young guy who thinks the stuff on the left is lame and old fashioned and the stuff listed on the right kicks ass.

    Fuck the manosphere though.

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    Ayyyy lemme see that wise crack bby

  • mortemtyrannis ( mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I tell you society went downhill when ladies stopped playing the zither!

  • Korhaka ( Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ) 
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    I don’t think you are doing half of that list while dressed like that

  • ShinkanTrain ( ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Alright, who’s gonna draw them kissing

  • four ( four@lemmy.zip ) 
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    “Earn my own living” sounds great in this economy!

  • Rozaŭtuno ( Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    They should kiss.

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    I dunno, this doesn’t feel the same as more contemporary commentary.

    There’s no overt judgement call on display in this cartoon. Like pointing out that the older generation looked for women who could sew/cook, but the younger generation looks for women who can dance and mix drinks, isn’t inherently saying that one is better or worse than the other. It feels more neutrally observational.

    Comparisons that we see these days, have pretty overt messaging as to the negatives the author sees in some social trends. Like comparing a virginal trad wife to a slutty gender fluid rainbow, and saying the rainbow will be bored with you in bed cause she’s had so many miles of dick that she barely notices yours.

    • PrimeMinisterKeyes ( PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ) 
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      Yeah, the headline is wrong. There’s no discernible criticizing going on in the cartoon. It’s called a juxtaposition.

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    Seems pretty evenhanded to me.

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    Frankly from the behavior I’ve seen from human men… well, Earth would probably be better if they were all eradicated. And I say that as a human male.

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      nah this is a lame take. People as a whole suck. trade your misandry for misanthropy

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      • prole ( prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        Days?

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          • CoolThingAboutMe ( CoolThingAboutMe@beehaw.org ) 
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            Society collapsing due to half the population disappearing, yes.

            All women dying out in “days” without men, no. 😂

            Even if in work like water treatment and electricity generation/distribution that are mostly men, there are still plenty of women. And huge swathes of the world live without these things anyway. It seems like you’re only thinking of cities becoming unlivable, or only thinking of a very narrow microcosm of women.

            As someone who has known extremely competent and intelligent women all through my life, and also lived in really remote and rural places, I can say with absolute certainty that if men just blipped out of existence one day women would be just fine.

            Yes, life wouldn’t continue as it had. There would be changes. Just like there would be changes for men if women all disappeared. But to suggest that women would just let rubbish and bodies pile up, and that they wouldn’t give any thought to or take action about food supply is delusional.

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  • Secret_Music ( Secret_Music@piefed.blahaj.zone ) OP
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    *Edited the absolute garbage title that I had for this post at first.

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    anyone else irked that the flapper column doesn’t say “crack wise”?

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