Is it just me, or does that seem … abrupt?
There’s time until March for the maintainers of the 3 niche architectures to organize and make rust available for them. Doesn’t sound that abrupt to me
Rust adds another layer of trusting the compiler isn’t backdoored. All UNIX/Linux systems use the gcc toolchain, so having it written in C would mean less dependencies for the OS.
- paraphrased from someone who seemed to know more about this stuff in this unrelated discussion yesterday
Strange times.
This seems relevant:
For package maintainers, it’s reasonable to expect security updates are rolled out the same week that a vulnerability is found. If you can’t deploy a new version of a package in 6 months, not maintaining the package is also a valid option.
yes very, and I hate it. rustic metal is never good ffs!
Still gonna use Debian.
So thats why whenever I try to find a package in apt, I have to iterate through thousands of simiparly named
librust-{dictionaryword}-{component}-devpackages in order to find the simplecomponentI want… Apt repos have really been trying too hard for granularity, I’m pretty sure there are more librust áckages than actual end-user program packages.Tells something about apt. Not because Rust bad or anything, but because Rust is more like C++ than C.
This shoehorning of Rust feels more artificial than Wayland’s. 🤔
Uhm, what?
Wayland has been in the works for more than a decade. Granted, there’s some people having issues with it, with propietary hardware (nVidia) and not-so-common setups like two monitors, but it happens that they are the most noisy. For the rest of us it’s been great, stable, and feels snappier than X.
If you want to talk about shoehorning stuff into Debian, talk about systemd.
not-so-common setups like two monitors
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the ONLY thing I can think of is sometimes, at least for me, on wayland it will switch the naming on my second monitor between either DP-1 or HDMI-A-1 randomly for whatever reason. bit of a very minor pain if I’m using a WM where I have to go in and edit the config to switch it but on KDE it’s not an issue. that’s literally the only thing I can think of.
I assume “weird two-monitors setups” that are not so common, not two-monitor setups as a whole, as Wayland works perfectly with two monitors. It even works way better than X11 if your monitors are different, like if only one has VRR or if both monitors need different scaling.
Second that. The person just needs to pull a cable into a cheap second-hand screen he/she bought and it’s pretty much done, so I can’t see why it wouldn’t be common.
Explaining, changes happening too abruptly feel artificial. Wayland’s been around for a while, sure, but it was barely adopted and then a lot of people started insisting on it overnight.
You can think yhat Wayland adoption was artificial, bit X.Org is unmaintained software and no developers are picking up reigns of X11. X is dead.
Some devs with stong opinions have forked X11:
Ah those bigots who hide behind “everybody is welcome”. DEI a discriminatory policy my ass…
Exactly
Yeah but his patches are so bad they almost all needed reverting so…
Maybe cause Apt is slow?
edit: maybe i have a placebo effect or i am miss remembering :PCompared to what?
I know redhat has a new package manager which name I can’t recall now but before it was rpm with yum and holy crap that was molasses slow
or maybe a placebo effect or i miss remembering :P
Apt feels like one of the faster package managers. dnf is slow, yum is snail speed, zypper is slow as fuck too. Apt and Pacman is by far on the faster side
Alr thanks for the correction.
I have strong doubts that rust could significantly speed up a software that’s written in C or C++.
