• Scrubbles ( scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ) 
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    11 months ago

    Before the influx of “just use jellyfin” bros come in let me get ahead of it.

    I ran Plex for a decade and loved it, had the subscription, was happy to pay for software I found value in. This however was the kicker, not because it i was directly affected (not because I had a lifetime subscription), but it signaled the end of Plex that I knew from before.

    So I did switch. It was not easy or painless like people here claim. Metadata is stored in different ways that made conversion difficult. I tried multiple conversion tools and none of them worked for me, or left my library in a half state. I ended up just staring from scratch, and it was a couple of months before I was happy with it.

    That being said, I think it’s worth it. It’s pretty much at feature parity, but mostly because Plex hasn’t been doing anything for server owners while jellyfin devs have been for years now. I’m happier with jellyfin than I was with Plex.

    So, to the “I use jellyfin LOL” guys here, no that’s not helpful, and it’s condescending. It pushes people away, but I have a weird feeling they want to push people away (and honestly if that’s your only comment it’s the same energy as crypto bros).

    Instead, I empathize with Plex hosters, I was there, it’s not a fun place to be anymore, and I am here to say that yes you can switch, no it’s not as easy as Plex, but I personally think it’s worth the effort. With all open source things the user interface and experience is definitely lacking, but if you’re willing to put in the time it will be worth it.

    • MacStainless ( MacStainless@piefed.social ) 
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      Until Jellyfin is as easy to use for Normals AND it has an actual appleTV app, it’s a nonstarter for me.

      Plex is enforcing a change they announced months ago and ONLY requires the server owner to have plex pass which you should already because it’s absolutely worth it. Now, if they made it that my mom and friends and everyone else I share to needed a pass, that’s a different story.

      Supporting plex with a pass makes sense. The software is stable and constantly worked on (regardless if you like the changes or not) so Pass is worth it for the features it unlocks.

      Jellyfin is great for single users watching on non-Apple hardware in their own home. For me (and I suspect many others) I’m not jumping ship unless Jellyfin either significantly improves on what I need or Plex enshittifies to a point where it’s untenable.

    • JCSpark ( JCSpark@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I use multiple paid services, including Plex, and I wouldn’t consider myself a moron.

      I also don’t use derogatory language in a forum to make a point. Be civil or you’ll be removed.

    • JCSpark ( JCSpark@lemmy.ca ) 
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      11 months ago

      I wouldn’t necessarily call myself a “power tripping asshole”, just someone that has a different perspective on paid software.

      I appreciate your views, as they lead to good discussion, but I won’t tolerate childish insults. I won’t ban you, but I will ask that you conduct yourself properly while sharing your opinions.

      • Nope. You’re just brainwashed by capitalism.

        You pay, that shit’s proprietary, you didnt make it, you can’t see the insides. Why would any self respecting sociopath give you something without including a backdoor, data logging/tracking, and a string to pull it back?

        You steal something, or download more anonymously, it isn’t immediately connected to you, it may not have the backdoors activated, and you probably cut that string when you acquired it. You might even have to fuck around in the guts and modify shit so it can’t be remotely bricked tracked etc.

        Applies to housing too. The state wants me out, I’m out. Can happen for a lot of reasons, and no amount of obedience keeps you 100% safe. In a squat, ive already defended myself, proven their power, at least what they’re willing to exercise, cannot dislodge me. The place is truly mine.

        You buy from the company store, you don’t own shit.

  • I’ve basically warned the people who use it that if they enshittify further I won’t be doing anything to try to maintain it.

    I gave them a PSA not to get a subscription, because I got a lifetime pass ages ago, but if they do much else I’m out. I’ll maybe, depending on the changes, keep hosting it in case they want to keep using it, but I won’t maintain it properly (it auto-adds stuff from my folders, ofc, so that’ll still happen, but I won’t fix any mismatches and stuff). I’ve already stopped giving new people access to it, as the writing is on the wall.

    I’m in the process of setting up jellyfin, but I have zero intention of making that available to anyone other than my partner (in IT, and already has access to my home VPN) because I’ve read how risky that is, and how you need to VPN them back to it or some shit and I’m just not willing to do any of that. Too risky and too much work cuz I don’t have a clue what I’m doing.

    I’d love a middle ground, but I’m not sure I’m willing to pay for another closed-source platform, and Idk if any open source platforms are ever going to be particularly good for remote sharing for non-techie users.