• Ulrich ( Ulrich@feddit.org ) 
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    and used a controller more than we’d like to admit

    What? Why would I care what kind of peripherals anyone uses?

    Also these stats are def wrong because I was ~100% controller and Steam told me 25%, and I know I’m not the only one.

  • Mark with a Z ( markz@suppo.fi ) 
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    On average, PC Gamer’s staff played around 59% of their games with keyboard and mouse, and 41% of them with a controller. I, myself, had a shameful 57/43% split. We are very sorry.

    Who the fuck cares? My stat was fifty-something on a PS3 controller. Anyone who thinks it’s shameful can go shit themselves. Are their readers some unironical PC masterracists or what?

    I thought using a controller was so normal and uncontroversial that no one would even think to say that as a joke. “As a living room gamer, I’d like apologize for gaming on a chair instead of the couch. I’m so sorry.”

    • ChaosSpectre ( ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Yeah as someone who has a wrist injury that makes chronic gaming with kbm very difficult, the attitude around this stat from PCGamer is kinda shitty.

      Like, some games are far better on controller. Dark Souls is the first that comes to mind, but I honestly can’t see myself playing any melee based action game with a mouse and keyboard, regardless of my injury.

      Realistically, the main advantages of kbm over controller tend to be hotkeys and aiming. Aiming can be overcome with gyro, which I use very frequnetly. Hotkeys is harder to overcome, but if you have spare buttons on your controller, steam input can at least make hotkeys something you can customize without much issue.

      • Mark with a Z ( markz@suppo.fi ) 
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        Yeah, some games are just worse with mouse and keyboard. I bought mad max this year, and I’m not going to use keyboard when half of that game is driving. And even when that isn’t the case, I’m not hauling over the keyboard and mouse when streaming the game to the tv. Right tool for the right job. I can’t understand how someone has a problem with this.

      • TyrianMollusk ( TyrianMollusk@infosec.pub ) 
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        It’s weird just how long input device bigotry persists in the PC space, despite being basically ridiculous.

        Mouse is great for positional input, and keyboard has a lot of keys, but let’s be honest, the keyboard isn’t even great for typing, let alone gaming. That ‘m’ has been hard-carrying kbm for a very long time, whereas controllers are very much purpose-designed, and have finally been getting some nice advances with gyros (pretty fun to use with flick-stick) and extra buttons, plus one of mine has a cool automatic trigger resistance option that really adds to driving games even without the game knowing about it at all.

        And that’s not even getting into that some players just find controller a more fun way to game than kbm. Sure, I’m never playing an action game on keyboard because it would murder my already pained hands, but honestly, that’s not why I play on controller. I like (preferably unassisted) controller gaming. Yeah, it’s not optimal in some games, but “optimal” does not equate to fun, especially if you’re not deep in competitive shooter territory, which includes a lot of players PC or otherwise.

        • ChaosSpectre ( ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip ) 
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          Definitely agree. Analog movement is something you cant do on a normal keyboard, but joystick feels natural for it. Haptic feedback is another one, with dualsense getting more and more support allowing for haptics to enhance the gaming experience. Trigger tension on the dualsense is also a nice feature that most games support.

          Honestly if I could just find a good keyboard attachment, I’d be all set when it comes to PC gaming

    • dil ( dil@piefed.zip ) 
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      I dont believe ppl yapping about aim assist being op, a good mouse and keyboard player will always destroy a lobby of controller players

  • Sanctus ( Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ) 
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    Controllers are fine to use with PC. Certain control schemes and game genres just play better on it. But if I see someone using a controller on an FPS I’m mocking as their aim assist kills me before I can even ADS.

  • thingsiplay ( thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 
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    used a controller more than we’d like to admit

    I don’t understand this statement. I mean it sounds like as if it was a bad thing you hide it or something… There is nothing to “admit”. I even play some first person shooter (single player) with gamepad, nothing wrong with it. Especially great with the gamepad support from Steam Input.

  • I’ve been using a controller more than M&KB for a few years now since I had an RSI. So much more comfortable; but absolutely shit for my aim without a really aggressive aim assist. 😮‍💨

    But I’m more into soulslikes than shooters now anyway. Partly because of the above mentiomed RSI, but mostly because all the current shooters are not my jam. I don’t really like BR or extraction/survival shooters. I just want CS or straight up DM type games.

  • Echolynx ( Echolynx@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I feel like more newer “PC” games are optimized for controllers these days. Trying to play Baldur’s Gate 3 with a keyboard and mouse feels so much clunkier than with a gamepad.