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To be clear; everyone working in my government, particularly after today, is a Nazi, or someone who works for Nazis. Do you know what we call people who worked for the Nazis, in the Nazi government? Yes, that is correct, Nazis.
So Machado is certainly not gonna feel lonely on the list of people on my TV who are definitely Nazis.
Oh, was that too harsh? Are you feeling bad for the good career civil servants, working for the literal fucking Nazis, who I have just impuned? Cool, let’s refer back to that part where I said I was surrounded by people who openly recognize that this is fascism, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY refuse to accept what that actually means.
We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis. Nobody says “the Nazi government and the career civil servants who hated them but stayed.”
“They’ll just find someone else.”
Then let them. “I took the job at the concentration camp because I was sure Hitler would find someone else” was not a good defense in court last time, and it won’t be this time either.
We call people, who worked for the Nazi Party, in the Nazi government, Nazis.
I mean, do we? I’m don’t think I’m convinced that every public school teacher in Germany from 1933 to 1945 was a Nazi.
There were also Nazi soldiers who didn’t want to be there. Like they were told their families would be killed along with the Jews if they did not fight for the Fatherland. They don’t get sympathy. It seems like it’s an all-or-nothing thing with fascism (on both sides, actually, being for them or against them). So yes, OP likely means the school teachers as well. I don’t like that, but we can’t really say at this point whether they were teaching good things or bad ones (e.g. state sponsored).
Like teachers in America today being told that they can’t teach that it’s okay to be Hispanic, Black, or LGBTQ+. Some of them probably still are. Some of them are not. It’s hard to know how the numbers actually fall though. But the ones who are teaching hate to children absolutely do deserve to be lumped in with the rest of the movement, by the same logic.
they were told their families would be killed along with the Jews if they did not fight for the Fatherland.
Yep and so they choose to be Nazis.
The nuance you’re looking for doesn’t exist.
If you were told to rape and murder an 8 year old or you and your family dies, what would you do? Either you’re dead or a child rapist and child murderer. There’s not some gray area there.
Good thing teaching children is not the same as raping and killing them.
Ok, got you down for child rapist and murder since you dodged the question and I have no doubts that you will neither dodge nor say no when it’s a Nazi asking.
You’ve got a great debate strategy. You must have gone to the same seminars as Charlie Kirk.
Right, so you’re saying the teachers are complicit. I’m saying that’s how the logic works. You either take it or leave it. I’m not disagreeing with the OP, I’m clarifying for someone.
If you don’t agree with me, that’s not as clear.
Anyway, it’s all ethics. So in your example, you have one 8 year old who you have to kill. (What you do to them doesn’t really matter, except in how it’ll fuck up your own memories and dreams and whatnot. But as far as the ethical scales are concerned, your impact to the universe is you killed 1 child. And maybe others know it, maybe they don’t — you didn’t specify. Now, if you weigh that against just your partner being killed, maybe you’ve been married a long time, you’re both getting up there. You sacrifice yourself and your partner for this one child, as you should. But, what if your family includes three children about the same age? Then you have the classic trolley problem. Your inaction results in the death of the three children (plus whatever other family members). Your cruel action results in the death of one child. There is no easy answer, which is why the trolley problem continues to test people. Personally, my answer to the trolley problem is the inaction — you do nothing, more people die, you blame the trolley. You could have saved them, but by doing nothing, you didn’t do a bad thing, you just didn’t do a good thing and a bad thing. Ethically I think it’s the right call. Not everybody agrees.
yes. you need an entire nation of nazis to function under complete societal control. nazis have to be in every corner of public life, especially government facing positions. this application of the term doesn’t consider only full-fledged allegiance swearing nazis but workers as well who followed whatever orders they were given to keep their heads low and remain out of trouble. if you follow a nazi work ethic, in your nazi culture, hired by a company staffed by nazis, conducting government business through the lens of nazism… you’re a nazi. it doesn’t matter if you aren’t willingly being one or merely trying to live, you are upholding nazi values.
Well shit, someone better tell the genocide studies professors at state colleges that they’re actually Nazis
You mean those that already fled to Spain and Canada?
yeah, they are. they are willingly teaching state propaganda which has been fascist for decades just now more openly, and this current administration has destroyed education and instituted their own rules and regulations on what is and isn’t allowed to be taught. if you are working for the government in a capacity that puts authority or power in your hands, then yes, you are a little nazi puppet and are therefore a nazi yourself. it doesn’t mean you’re the same amount of evil as active nazis participating beyond their need to survive.
I’m just trying to keep my state college library’s tech running smoothly, and keep the students from having vaping in the 4th floor bathroom. I’m planning a Gaypril book display because the students are home over the summer, so they never see the one I put up for pride month. I know the procedures for if ICE shows up (they’re not allowed in non-public buildings, but the library is a public building). I keep snacks, drinks, and a first aid kit in my office in case I have to shelter in place. I’m a member of my union.
I’m trying my best here and so are my coworkers. I don’t see myself doing more good working in the private sector.
i don’t know if we are at the point where i would apply the “little nazis are everywhere” framework yet but i also can see the argument made for a parallel to Nazi Germany. many average nazis were not ideologically motivated and favored Hitler’s economic vision and the promise of restoring Germany. the sweet librarian was a nazi because she was poor and suffering, not because she hated Jews and believed in the supremacy of the Aryan race. but even workers in nazified fields were nazis doing the bidding of the party even if they were resisting in their own ways.
look at it this way: our education in the US has eroded significantly the past 30 years. right-wing policies have dismantled the effectiveness of public education and they have supplemented their own learning methods and material. education standards have been controlled by fascists for quite some time now which is why kids aren’t learning fuck all about actual real history. the US has removed and prevented genuine discussion of our past and are propagandizing our students into denying the harms we caused ourselves and the world.
you are a state worker upholding the standards set by the state. the state has been openly fascist since Trump’s first presidency. what are you going to do when your school starts telling staff they have to take away certain reading materials if they see students with them? what is your plan if state schools are required to implement policies that control speech and expression? because if your answer is to stay and provide a balance as the opposition you are being naive. you will have to also do their bidding or lose your job, so you’d be fighting fire by pouring water and oil on it.
there has to come a point in this administration where state jobs are seen as vile and avoided and anyone upholding the system should be looked at suspiciously. it doesn’t matter if the principal of a high school is a resistance Democrat, because they are still willingly being used to normalize and standardize fascism. they are also nazis.
My job is to improve access to educational resources and to help ease young adults into adulthood/soften life’s blows for my students. I can’t do that if I’m not at the school.
Librarians are keenly aware of the tension between intellectual freedom and the government. For example, since at least the PATRIOT act we’ve stopped keeping certain patron records–you can’t be compelled to share information you don’t have. You think I’ve not been watching librarians in other states be prosecuted for providing LGBTQ+ material to students? I’ve been paying attention.
I’ve not been asked to do anything against my morals. I’m a state employee, not a federal one, so changes made at the federal level get interpreted by my state government before reaching my college and me. TBH, I expect our services to be eroded through lack of funding, rather than through the implementation of new rules. We’re too understaffed to effectively implement new rules anyway.
I’m a state employee, not a federal one, so changes made at the federal level get interpreted by my state government before reaching my college and me.
I think the fact that so many people don’t seem to grasp this basic concept about how this country functions seems to imply that those services have already been eroded plenty
Your best would be shooting ICE if they come anywhere near the building, not just politely asking them to leave or cowering away when they step near a library.
Those people work for the state, not the federal government.
And this person is talking about all government workers.
It doesn’t matter, most federal workers fit as well. Career scientists and engineers at the EPA aren’t fucking Nazis
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“everyone working in my government”
Jesus Fucking Christ… I swear, some people read “kill the liberal inside your head” and heard “turn into a rambling, insufferable edgelord that has completely lost touch with reality.”
Do you even have the remotest idea how thoroughly fucked you (yes you, specifically - and specifically everybody around you) would be if every public worker in your country suddenly decided to up and leave their government job to fulfill your edgelord fantasy moral purity test?
We’re talking everybody - from the street sweepers, to sanitation workers, to nurses and health inspectors. Just how far do you think you’re going to get?
Even Joseph Fucking Stalin didn’t buy into this bullshit narrative of yours - neither did the hundreds of thousands of troops and resistance fighters who marched into Germany (including anarchist ones) and saw every kind of Nazi depravity with their own damn eyes.
But you, edgelord supremo, know better than them, right?
You’re right, it’s much better if the government agents prop the nazi regime. A strike of any sort is totally edgelord behaviour.
Fucking cringe, mate.
You’re right, it’s much better if the government agents prop the nazi regime.
Who is propping up this regime, db0?
The people who collected your garbage this week, perhaps?
Howzabout the plumbers who ensures that there’s water coming out of your taps? Perhaps them?
A strike of any sort is totally edgelord behaviour.
Who said anything about strikes? If the aforementioned garbage collectors and plumbers leave their government jobs out of some moral prerogative they can’t actually go on strikes, can they? The only place they’ll be “picketing” is on the unemployment line.
Motherfucker over here splitting hairs on how to disrupt the fucking nazi government…
Not going to engage with this cringe any further. I’m getting psychic damage just engaging with these arguments.
Oh, you’re “getting psychic damage?”
I’m getting “psychic damage” constantly having to try and talk sense into “anarchists” who believe distancing themselves from the working class and maintaining the correct level of edgelord vibes will (somehow) magically change anything.
Don’t bother banning me… I’ll show myself out.
Yeah no, that’s not at all what they’re doing. Or do you disagree with what they said and think we should be killing plumbers and garbage men?
Grow up. Maybe read up on just how many people are employed by the US government at every level, and what some of those jobs actually are.
Nice strawman
What strawman? I was asking if you disagreed with their point, because you didn’t address it at all. That’s not what a straw man is
That’s not what a straw man is
Oh really? Where did anyone say anything about murdening plumbers and garbage men.
Nice red herring.
I like how you can not engage in any of the points of the other argument and still pretend like you’re being the reasonable one. You throw out logical fallacies and think that makes you correct. You’ve ignored two arguments before this comment just attacking the other person, ignoring their points. It appears that you don’t actually have any ground to stand on and are just trying to be on offense so you don’t have to be on defence.
This is why tankies and communists are not allies of anyone. They put personal survival ahead of the survival of others. They have zero capacity for self sacrifice.
you misquoted liberals, who are in Congress right now, wearing badges as “Democrats”
Go ahead explain to me how a park service maintenance worker scrubbing a toilet is propping up the regime.
have all the sanitation workers walkout and we’ll see how quickly a regime with clogged toilets (among others) survives.
They’d just put up an out of order sign or close the park. Doesn’t effect the regime and only harms the public
/disengage
It is better to have them there, rather than have the government be 100% Fascists. People who don’t support them can slow things down by “accidentally” doing things wrong/poorly. If they all leave and are replaced by actual Fascists who want to support the regime, they will do things as well as they possibly can. Also, having people in there who can feed information is also really useful.
This is the 22 years of slowing down you’re talking about:
At the least you’re honest on wanting them to stay there, accelerating genocide.
.001% Nazi state is still too many.Lol. I don’t think you understand how this all works. Do you think it’d be higher or lower with 100% of people working for them supporting what they want?
There’s a very real and useful tactic called malicious compliance, where you do what’s written but not what’s intended, to slow down the machinery. It’s a useful tactic, but you need people on the inside to do that.
If you still want them to leave after reading this, I’m assuming you’re on their side. You want them to leave to make room for obedient workers. If so, fuck off. You’re too easy to read.
Am I talking to a robot, or do you blatantly ignore the fact that ICE accelerated it’s “machinery” after 2025, and that malicious compliance is having the opposite effect, as I replied to you back?
How can you know it’s having the opposite effect if they’re accelerating their machinery? The result could easily just be the acceleration from increased spending and recruitment being more powerful than the malicious compliance.
If they leave, do you think those jobs remain vacant? Obviously not. They fill them with new employees, who will probably be sycophants. They’ll be happy to do the job as desired and make things worse.
Because effectively “They [have] fill them with new […] sycophants. They’ll be happy to do the job as desired and make things worse.” It’s 2026, they’ve point blank executed 9 people in Minnesota, a Blue state.
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Can you parse sarcasm?
A good friend of mine is quitting their (once) dream fed job, counting down the remainder until their last day. They work for the government to enforce engineering safety standards, but can no longer stomach the gutting of safety regulations that their department manages. Upon raising ethical concerns, they got dragged into a room with lawyers who relayed a parable about ethics. The lesson was: Be “a good soldier” and ignore safety regulations if you’re told to do so.
I go to work everyday and feel like a mail clerk in the Death Star
- My friend to me
Damn, mail clerk at the Death Star sounds like an awesome job, and low-pressure compared to other jobs at the Death Star. Low chance of being strangled by Vader, and you get to watch a planet blow up if you’re into that, which, if you worked at the Death Star, you probably would be.
To be clear, nazis weren’t entirely purged, there was the whole Baader Meinhoff movement kicked off by the youth discovering their government and teachers had also been nazis.
Oh yeah I know. In fact many of them got promoted
Also, “wasn’t a good defense in court” is not true at all. The US Nuremberg trials had a <0.2% conviction rate for war criminals, and <1% for “major war criminals” (not even just rank and file like a government employee would be).
It was apparently an amazing defense that resulted in the lowest conviction rate of almost any crime in history besides “perjury” which is the biggest joke of a law in the US.
Some people on this site are so divorced from reality it’s scary. Nuance? Never heard of her.
And I’m sure that anyone potentially replying to my comment will spew some bs like “if you work for a ‘nazi’ in any way, you’re a nazi” and to those people I say that it is clear you have lived your entire life without having had to deal with real life dilemmas and compromises. Must be nice to feel entitled to dictate who gets to provide for their family and who have to quit or they are deemed a nazi by you. What a humble, sane and intelligent mindset to have.
Demanding people in an unstable country to quit their job is the extremist leftie version of “just stop being poor”.
Some people don’t have the luxury to quit, especially if they have a home and a family to feed and bills to pay, which is the case for most people.
I think that what you’re realizing is that lots of the Nazis in Germany were likely we’ll meaning people stuck in a bad situation who kept coming to work because they needed to provide for their families and pay bills and maintain their homes.
And do you know how history refers to those people?
History refers to them as Germans. I’m not playing that game with you. My country share a border with Germany. We know the history very well an we know the hard work the Germans put in after the war was over, as well as the hard work many of them put in to oppose the system while they were under Hitler.
It is the same with everyday Russians who have no control over what their leader is doing to their neighbors.
And now, Americans, stuck in a system that has been stolen by a skinwalker.
I don’t want people to starve and go homeless just because some terminally online, holier than thou people online think that opposing a regime is as easy as to just quit your job.
Been reading this thread interested as someone whose loved one works for municipal IT. On that basis I sympathize with your perspective, but I have to take issue with this statement:
And now, Americans, stuck in a system that has been stolen by a skinwalker.
I wouldn’t say so. This is the system that we have. The executive office has been erasing checks and balances since WWII. The Heritage Foundation and other SIGs have been pushing white supremacy for 200 years. ICE was created by Bush Jr. after after a mob riot in Florida disrupted a recount that could have given the presidency to Al Gore. Generously this is when we can say our democracy first proved flawed, but the rationalizations and mechanisms go back to our founding. We haven’t been hijacked, we are the monster and have been for some time.
That is fair. I have never thought America was a perfect country before trump and have always had massive issues with how things have been run and the - in my opinion - bad values that it has been nurturing. However, I did see a will to move in a better direction where the country was starting to focus more on its people’s welfare and trump has more than undone that progress and been a pathetic counter reaction to those positive changes.
It was never a perfect country but this development is kinda the worst version of the worst initiatives the country has made in recent decades.
For what it’s worth I do feel a lot of sympathy for the American people who are stuck in this nightmare. I am the absolute angriest at the American nation I have ever been in my life and that’s why I have to hold on to the fact that a pretty significant number of Americans are not okay with the direction their nation is going in.
I hope it makes sense to you. I just imagine that a lot of Americans currently feels more alienated by their own nation’s conduct than usual. I sure would even if many of the things going on are pretty much business as usual, but being expressed by a monkey who’s been given a fully loaded machine-gun.
I do understand, and it does make sense to me.
Thank you, friend!
don’t come here with your reason and compassion, it’ll fall for deaf ears and you’ll lose your hope in humanity.
I am starting to realize that, lol.
I think the funniest part is that I was being down voted for calling out an obvious anti-Denmark propaganda troll in a thread full of people talking about how America is a nazi nation. And yet so many people completely fall for an obvious MAGA troll who is spreading the exact same disinformation and slander about my country that trump and his minions were spreading last year in and attempt to make Americans supportive of an invasion of Greenland.
That is endlessly amusing to me. Really shows you that none of the people here are serious nor have any worthwhile opinions about the world they live in. Horseshoe theory is alive and well.
No one said it was easy.
No, but it is very easy to be a keyboard warrior and call regular people nazis because they don’t leave their jobs.
I asked you what history has called them. I get that you don’t like the answer, but it doesn’t change the truth.
I did give you an answer but you don’t like the answer and want to hold on to your måde up version of reality. I don’t expect someone like you to have any remotely nuanced understanding of how Europe understands its own history nor how its relationship with Germans has mended the past 80 years to the point that no one calls regular Germans who worked regular jobs during nazi Germany for nazis. That is such a childish and simplistic understanding of our history. But I get it, you don’t want to be nuanced. You want to live in your black and white world view. Enjoy that. You fit right in with MAGA.
Lmao, you had to get into the personal attacks.
Just because you forgave the Nazis doesn’t mean that everyone else needs to.
22 years of “doing my job” btw:
Yeah because the only job available in America is being an ICE agent. You got me. Damn.
Which job ends US imperialism?
yeah but also some people need to read the sidebar
This is a bad take, capitalist and the Nazis running the government don’t give two shits if a couple people quit to clear their conscience. If your in a productive part of the government, healthcare, sanitation, infrastructure etc. that isn’t directly contributing to the camps then don’t quit, organize. Start agitating to create a union, if there already is one, agitate within it, maybe you’ll get fired anyway but if you’ve integrated yourself into the workplace more by fighting for a union then your fellow workers will have more sympathy, be more angry at the boss who is trying to suppress speech and be more likely to follow you and withhold their labor then if you just yelled “Fuck ICE” as you quit.
Change won’t come from individual uncoordinated silent acts of conscience, it comes through building solidarity with your fellow workers and fighting together.
This is all if you work in a part of the government that actually helps people, if you are working in ICE, defense contractors, etc. then yeah quit your job.
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I wonder what I’d do if the Americans took over Canada. Likely all my savings would vanish overnight along with the Canadian dollar, so all I’d own is what’s in our apartment at the time. I would probably have to work for the occupiers just to eat.
The funny thing is it seems most commentors in this post are civilians.
I am a state employee, and I am keenly aware of my role in reinforcing the state mechanisms.
My work directly supports and maintains a small subsection of gears of this overall system.
I get paid in taxpayer money, I have the capability of living a “middle class” life.
I donate some of my earnings to charities and fundraisers for various undisclosed civil rights and activists.
I love doing the contents of my work, And I enjoy the knowledge that my work contributes to a better experience for civilians in my state.
But I am keenly aware that I am reinforcing the gears even if the work I do has little association to any detrimental effects to the people.
I am at the bottom of the ladder, following orders, providing services to improve the experience for civilians, reinforcing the gears.
I do it for the paycheck.
I am complicit in that regards.
All statements and opinions in this post are not reflective of my employer.
It really depends what a person actually does for the state, at what level of government they operate. Especially in a country as large as the US. Many states are larger than European nations, and have larger GDPs. If you work for the state level Department of Environmental Protection in Vermont, you’re not exactly contributing to the same “machine” that’s killing the Republic
Do you know what we call the person that distributes soup to the homeless at a nazi event?
I’m gonna guess “Nazi”? So let me get this straight, the state run soup kitchen near you does Nazi events?
Should we thank you for thousands of cops deaths and ICE deaths committed each year that you loved collaborating in the
homocidesqualified immunity of your state?Lmao. Really American of you to SLAM yourself over it but not actually do anything about it.
Operational security is a must for anyone self aware.
Take is as you read it, but I cannot elaborate further.
You sure helped out Yemen, Lybia, & Gaza then.
Thank you for your Zionism!🖕Oh fuck you’re so mysterious. If I had a dick it’d be so hard right now.
Well to be fair…
The vast majority of Nazi’s were pardoned as you can’t jail the majority of an entire country. The West of the worst were tried and sentenced, most simply weren’t even charge with anything. Most Nazi soldiers simply returned home.
Also, back then just about everything was linked to the Nazi’s and there war effort, so unless you worked for the resistance, technically, you were working for the Nazi’s too
Having said that, most of ICE, for example, will not be charged with much, I expect. Trump’s top level goons, on the other hand…
Does this mean that if a communist party was suddenly running the government then all state employees would suddenly flip from being nazis to communists?
Exactly that
Literally what occured to me in the past 24hrs
Here’s a comrade’s different interpretation of the same voting data.
🇺🇲Democrats want their flavor of fascism. Glad this community actually gets it.
The term for this is “Little Eichmanns”.
Yeah, that is too harsh.
We should call them cum stains.
Nazi was an insult meaning idiot. The “Nazi” party never referred to themselves as Nazis. It was the national socialist party. So it’s weird for this post to talk about who people referred to as Nazis at the time without that context.
