Why does everyone (90% of you in the comments) keep playing along with the notion that she was even disobeying Ice.
In the video I saw, she was just trying to turn her car around they started giving her random orders and then they killed her when she didn’t figure out what they wanted quickly enough.
They’re just telling you that you have nothing to lose so fight back
“Every congressional democrat and every democrat who’s running for president should be asked a simple question: Do you think this officer was wrong in defending his life against a deranged leftist who tried to run him over?” Vance wrote in a post on X.
Engaging in any response implicitly agrees on the premise of his question. That 1. The agent was defending his life. 2. That someone tried to run him over. 3. That that person was a deranged leftist.
It’s a loaded question from the start that must be refused outright.
Engaging in any response implicitly agrees on the premise of his question
The only valid response is “JD Vance is lying to you”.
We are the party of freedom
We will save you from the tyrannical government
If you disobey us you will die
Freedom is slavery…
People should disrupt government procedures, this government needs to be stopped now.
Hey JD, you can expect to die from Fascism, ask Benito’s buddies…
This will only embolden them to shoot more as they see there are no consequences.
Yup, like Mattias Desmet pointed out in his book The Psychology of Totalitarianism, unchallenged, it gets worse and worse. So challenge it at every opportunity. Talk to them. Let them see other perspectives. It’ll plant seeds that eventually short circuit the totalitarianised psyche, and they’ll no longer be able to carry on seeing any and all atrocities as necessary virtues.
i think we are long past talking
so what do you propose can help mend this situation?
obviously not do nothing.
meet force with force? no, that wont likely work either, since that’s either thwarted easily or creates enough irritation to them to double down all the worse into totalitarian insanity. … which they even welcome, and seek to provoke, to give them more excuse to be worse, painting the effort as a “problem” to which they can evoke the “reaction” clamouring all the more for their “solution”
so if not planting seeds of better wisdom, and helping them get out of totalitarianised psyche,
what’s your proposal?
OCCUPY wallstreet was the that testing the water, once the rich saw no actual rioting, action, they continued to laugh all the way to the bank, while convincing a culture war is what people should be concerned about. i overheard people from university talking about how trump has made everyone ovvereact if you mention anything about thier race, or gender(1st term). this is what it is now.
They’re just thugs with too much authority.
they are thugs expecting no resistance or consequences, if people actually fought back on the first day, things wouldve been different. we know trump loves to enact martial law, but hes going to do it sooner or later.
When DOGE was first bursting into government office buildings with no authority at all, they just let them in. If the first few DOGE Squads had been gunned down in the lobbies for trying invade a government facility, we’d be in a different place right now.
thats why they expected no resistance, from the dems, they are pretty much right. they assume it will just be a localized issue and wouldnt blossom to a country wide problem.
The Dems are obsessed with being polite to their enemies, and it has been their downfall.
no riots, meaning the oligarchs, fascist will know you wont do anything, and they just continue to mow people down. what they are really a fraid is general rioting, doesnt even need to start with 'violence", is enough disrupt businesses in the area, just things like looting, shoplifting, or vandalism is enough to scare them too.
People in LA did fight back.
protesting? that was pretty ineffective, because it was too predictable,and organized.
People need to organize into states, states need to get their shit together and begin preparing non-violently, together, for the inevitable civil conflict. If in a world replete with reasons why and how civil wars happen against dictators the US cannot see past their own previous Civil War into why they fought it, to decide whether it was due to Civil Rights or whether it was simply to maintain the Manifest Destiny hegemony, they have already lost. Although there’s too many people thinking this will blow over peacefully without any more preparation except that to believe they can return to the old oligarchy way of doing things for me to have any hope…
Trump and Shady Vance could die for disobeying the American people. That would take about 3 more invasions, 6 rapes, and 75 americans murdered by their own government, before that will happen (based on what I’ve seen so far). The biggest mistake people are making is waiting for the democrats to save them.
The biggest mistake people are making is waiting for the democrats to save them.
Nobody wants to be the one that goes down in history for kicking off the Civil War. But once it gets going, and people don’t have choices any more, they’ll get involved.
Everybody is still hoping that there will be a peaceful solution, but whatever that is, it will be unsatisfying to all, and will only be a band-aid on an increasingly festering wound. More and more, it’s looking like America is going to have to literally fight to take our country back from treasonous criminals.
actually its worst, they are waiting til it dies down, or someone else comes and stop this, doesnt even need to be DEMs.
Trump and JD Vance
Say YouCan Expect to Diefor Disobeying ICEDie from their healthcare disinformation.
and you can expect to die if your ice adjacent.
