The problem is capitalism but the problem is also people that are unwilling to change their lifestyle
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Because you’re posting eco-fascist rhetoric.
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.ml is really just as bad as reddit. Neither place can handle people thinking differently
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Not tolerating fascism is general leftist behaviour.
So that I’ll know which ones to upvote.
Wouldn’t we need to exploit our planet for material for a growing population regardless of our species economic system? It’s more of an issue of degree, no?
Education and quality of life improvements lower birth-rates. We have enough resources and the logistical means to ensure all peoples have access to high quality of life. We choose to deny this based on a capitalist profit seeking model, where we over allocate resources to the most wealthy and strip them from the least.
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It’s the deliberate choice to use processes over more sustainable options, like using gas and coal instead of cleaner solutions like nuclear. Other examples would be outsourcing processes that we could do cleanly to the 3rd world because it’s cheaper.
Doesn’t matter. Both the first argument and yours presuppose the internal value of bio diversity detached from humanity, which is weird.
Nature is valuable insofar we can coexist with it. If climate change were driven by the factors independent of our actions, our collective goal would have been to defend humanity and not LDAR.
I cannot prove it, but vibes are that this sentiment is coming from years and years of anti climate action propaganda.
Do you mean to say that human life is the only life with value, and all other life gains value by virtue of its positive relationship with human life?
I don’t understand how you envision our species coexisting in equilibrium with our planet. Are you suggesting that we give up our resource hungry high technology and live closer to what the Amish are trying to do?
At our current level of industrial capabilities we could provide a standard of living for all humans at around the level of an eastern European country. That sounds bad if you live in America, but it sounds like an impossibility if you live in the 3rd world. The truth is capitalism creates these disparities and prevents the study of more equitable technologies.
I don’t understand how you envision our species coexisting in equilibrium with our planet.
Because I don’t want to discuss this. This is a vile path. It’s like a debate on the fact that jews disproportionately control more capital than other ethnicities or not.
You don’t want to discuss your ideal vision of humanity? That’s odd.
Not in a context of eco fascism
You should look up solarpunk for ideas of how we can live in a symbiotic way without giving up technological advancements or reducing our quality of life. Mostly it’s stuff like sustainable farming, renewable energy, and not being wasteful with materials.
The future you’re talking about won’t be in your own hands. Technocapital will make those decisions about how to exploit the planet for you, and population stability, quality of life, and economic, measured use of resources (ie literally “conservative”) will all be secondary, tertiary, or even more distant goals. There will not be a great flash of light where turning the planet into a gray brick will yield a positive singularity. When we’ve used the world up, it’s gone, but you and I will be left alive for a litle while to writhe like flayed worms in hell. Maybe another species can guzzle up our bones in several million years to make a computer do unnecessary math calculations with the hopes of achieving infinite growth?
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Yes, but if we stop capitalism the population will likely maintain itself at a reasonable level. The only reason we have as many people as we do now is thanks to government pressure to reproduce as much as possible, restricted access to family planning techniques, and rape culture.
The vast majority of self-proclaimed leftists I met still eat animals.
because leftism is a tendency about human liberation
I think that when robots become autonomous, they can be used to promote healthier ecosystems. Forestry robots can plant new generations of flora, using GPS to identify rain patterns alongside soil erosion records, then plant the right types of things for a given location to improve the ecosystem’s success.
I think that going “future solutions will fix this problem, don’t think about it now” like you are is a huge part of the problem.
Don’t think big picture, do actions, now.
This post: How do invasive species overtax an ecosystem? Capitalism. List of the worst offenders.
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