You mean installing? How Google is going to handle restricting us from installing apps on our phone? Thats what it is. Sideloading doesn’t fucking exist.
Stop complaining, just use a different mobile OS.
… oh, shit!
I’ve heard people call it sideloading for actual PCs.
Like, the fuck?
If your computer came shipped in windows S mode it’s kinda apt.
“Actual” PCs.
They are actual pcs
Your not-so personal walled garden is a personal computer?
I have no clue what you’re trying to say.
PC = Personal Computer
Very happy with GrapheneOS.
GrapheneOS is a nice reprieve from the sea of endless enshittification news flowing forth from Big Tech these days.
While it last, Google is disabling apks and you think they won’t lock bootloaders?
There are other phone companies.
Graphene is working with a manufacturer to build a device for them.
Also, Graphene isn’t the only game in town. Lineage is fine, yes, you can’t re-lock the bootloader on most devices, but frankly that risk is overstated for the average person. For the people who need that kind of security, if they’re that big of a target then the actors after them will have state-level capability. So it’s a deterrent for less-capable adversaries.
Well the next gen graphene os release will be on their own devices. They’re working with an OEM now.
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It’s a quite ironic it’s only available for Google’s phones.
e/os is fine too.
Few years back I got a Chromebook just to put GalliumOS on it. Google’s hardware honestly has a decent track record for allowing open source operating systems.
Okay you got me with this one. Excepting one category of Apple products, you would need to go back about half a century to find an example of a major hardware manufacturer that is worse at “allowing” open source operating systems.
Is the ui the same as Pixel?
Yeah. The biggest issues I’ve had with it are:
Google Wallet does not load (I use Passes or Catima to download tickets) and tap to pay does not work - Google Pay still works, just not through the app.
Some financial apps don’t work. CapitalOne doesn’t open, but I only need to login once a month to pay my credit card so I just do it on my computer.
My company’s Microsoft Intune setup didn’t work, but they recently restricted it to iPhone only so that’s not relevant anymore.
They don’t support RCS which is a deal breaker for me currently
I got Capital One to work on my GOS phone by turning on the exploit protection compatibility mode for the app in system settings
I’m very interested, but losing tap to pay could be a deal breaker. Also, Dexcom app can be very picky. But if Google makes side loading too difficult all bets are off.
I cannot for the life of me get Android Auto to work with it.
Mine has always worked first try since they added it. Make sure to set it up through Settings>Apps>Android Auto>Additonal Settings
I missed your reply, thanks I’ll give that a shot. I think I’m going to completely wipe this phone and start over for unrelated reasons.
Weird. Capital one works fine for me… Did you try exploit protection compatibility mode? I have it enabled for all banking apps.
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Yep, it’s the same stock UI and design language. Most of the modifications are under the hood and more user control over apps, permissions, etc
“sideloading”
Exactly. Stop using sideloading. The correct term is “installing”.
Google wants to prevent users from installing apps on their phones.
“For your security”
The strings mentioned are worrying. The developer verification requires an internet access - what if there’s no internet or the connection is spotty? Does that mean you can’t install the APK without Uncle Google having the internet first?
Android already scares you away from installing APKs.
A modern Android device does not simply let you install an APK without going through a lotta mental gymnastics. On a Xiaomi device with HyperOS, you have to turn the permission on for it and sit there for ten seconds to read their warnings before you can manually proceed. Each time you install something, there’s a chance Google Play will pop up to tell you the app does not support a modern Android version, and it will require your unlock or fingerprint to even continue. Not to mention some apps literally tell you Google Play is unsure of their security and offers you to send it so what I assume is their automated systems could give the APK file a look.
If all these scare tactics didn’t stop you, there’s nothing more Google or the manufacturers could do without stripping even more of what made Android great in the first place.
Look up the word “Enshittification” in a dictionary and you’ll see the android logo right next to it
There’s also some fucker named “Automatic Blocker” on (Samsung’s (?)) Android devices that is on by default, which prevents installation of APKs.
As in, no side loading at all on Sammy devices? I find that hard to believe. You mean more restrictions on installing just some but not all APKs, right? That’s still scummy either way if true.
You CAN disable it (heck, you can even remove the package via ADB). But it’s still annoying that it’s the default.
I once read that uninstalling packages with ADB on Xiaomi phones would make it even more painful to unlock the bootloader. It’s probably just a one off half truth but even that made me be wary of just uninstalling things - but yeah this means whenever someone wants to sideload something on a Samsung they need to follow a tutorial at best, that’s blegh.
oh, yeah…
Xiaomi is a pain in the ass.True. They’re nice in some ways, but not all the ways.
the biggest problem hasn’t yet emerged, let’s say Orange turd will use his power to force Goolag to restrict access to the Goolag account for any country or entity for any of his moronic reason.
This is honestly the biggest issue with using American platforms, they are fundamentally unreliable (not to mention criminally corrupt).
Already happened with the ICC, in our country we are trying to avoid the US financial system. The central bank is developing a QR payment system. Currently, we have agreements to use this system with several countries in Asia.
And no matter how good the QR payment system is, it still relies heavily on the Goolag ecosystem. Most QR payment applications will not work with microG.
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