We’re also committing to supporting Vortex on SteamOS. We’ll be targeting vanilla Steam hardware like the Steam Deck and Steam Machine. We won’t be officially supporting any other configurations, but as Vortex is an open source project community developers will be free to extend support for their preferred Linux distros as they please.
That’s great! Now if only Nexus Mods wasn’t a deep web walled garden holding every game mod in existence captive, everything would be wonderful.
Imagine an easy to use open source mod application with versions on every major OS. No ads. No slow download options. Just functionality.
If only I had some talent.
The software isn’t the hard part, it’s the storage for the mods and networking infrastructure to get them out to people. Add in commonly requested features like comments, tagging, search with filters, and a website and you have a recipe for a wildly expensive and fairly complex product. As shitty as Nexus is, they have evolved into the YouTube of mods. A single entity hosting fairly sizable infrastructure to provide a free as in data theft service to basically anyone with a pulse.
I am curious to see if there is a good solution to decentralized data storage that isn’t redundantly copying the data X number of times and hoping for the best. That alone would go a long way towards solving the infrastructure issues.
Magnet link for the actual mod download? Then you just need some fairly standard forum software in front. Let the users host the decentralised data.
What happens when people decide not to seed anymore?
Vortex is (going to be?) open source, for what it’s worth. Still dependent on Nexus tho. We need a “Lutris for mods” with community sourced scripts
I hope they discover Flatpak and support that, instead only one platform.
Yeah so whats happening here is their ‘dev team’ and/or its leadership are a bunch of fucking morons.
That’s basically the only way this can happen.
Oh the project we deprecated, so that we can make a new thing that does new stuff?
Uh.
Um.
The old thing is actually better at the new stuff.
Turns out all the work we did for the last year or two was pretty much completely useless as anything other than an expensive lesson in how to fail at software development.
Whoops!
But that’s no big deal, that’s
Nothing dramatic or groundbreaking,
It’s just:
just small problems that added up over time to slow us down.
What they’re almost certainly doing is entirely giving up on figuring how anything to do with linux works, and … they’re just gonna (try to) make it work through Proton.
These people are clowns.
NexusMods is to PC modding as CrunchyRoll is to Anime:
They’re a bunch of amateurs who have no idea what they’re doing, and basically just ended up being the default ‘provider’ of what they provide by accident.
They are primarily social media manager types first, everything else second or third.
Their expertise is posting on forums and aura policing, not actually getting anything done or thinking out a complex process with strategic tradeoff decisions that have to be made and stuck to.
NexusMods was always trash. They require an account to download mods, but their registration form regularly breaks for months at a time.
They recently had a bit of an ownership change, and I’m guessing some of the direction changes may be because of that.
I haven’t used it myself, but there Limo, a Nexus compatible mod manager for Linux. Seems competent.
Limo is closer to Mod Organizer than Nexus Mod Manager (honestly the only interesting part of the nexus one is the mod collections feature for “mod packs”)
I’ve been using Limo, on Bazzite, to mod Cyberpunk 2077, Kenshi, and Fallout NewVegas, on a SteamDeck, with 10s of gigs of mods for each … for 2 years now.
Yep, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles, isn’t as automated as far as auto support for paying to download 100 gig messes of modpacks that don’t work correctly, easily.
Yep, it requires a bit of learning how it works, and yep, a few particularly invasive/reconstructive/substantial mods require weird little work arounds.
But that is basically always going to be the case.
And Limo gives you all the tools you need to put in a bit of your own effort and figure out how to make things work, or identify things that just won’t work.
A mod manager cannot be an easy button, because mods by their nature are made by amateurs, are experimental, are mutually incompatible.
Trying to make a mod manager that is an easy button is a fundamentally doomed to fail idea, unless you think you can come up with a solution to handle every weird thing that ever has been or ever will be done by a modder, for every game, ever.
You would think these Nexus people would understand this automatically, having been doing what they’ve been doing for what like a decade or two now?
Mods and modding should not be a mass of consumers demanding to be served by a service provider who attempts to wrangle and manage tens or hundreds of thousands of of mod makers making and publishing mods.
That’s paywalls, that’s paid for mod stores, that’s a service provider that controls the IP snd distrobution rights of everyone involved way way more than it should.
You need the chaos of a bunch of random shit and people who may or may not work well together, you need the end user to actually assume the responsibility of having to put in some actual thought.
Trying to standardize and systemetize all of it for convenience’s sake destroys the very spirit of mods and modding.
Collection support is the number one reason I’m still trying to get vortex working on linux. Otherwise, I’d be trying limo out.
There’s a grease monkey script that lets you download collections in one go without the client
I MAKE A MOD MANAGER
I GIVE UP ON IT
I MAKE A NEW MOD MANAGER
THE NEXUS CREED
We’ll be targeting vanilla Steam hardware like the Steam Deck and Steam Machine. We won’t be officially supporting any other configurations
developers will be free to extend support for their preferred Linux distros
mfw distro and hardware are interchangeable
What if I install debian on my steam machine, Nexus? Will you still support that hardware? Or do you actually just care about targeting a single set of libraries and can’t be assed to properly explain that?
They are completely incompotent at linux and literally do not know what they are talking about.
See my other comment: they’re a bunch of fucking morons whose only real ‘skill’ is PR.
And yes, I say that, fully understanding they are also terrible at PR for any target demo over the age of 25.
I only care about this for stardew
Holy shit I had played hundreds of hours of SDV on Switch before I got the Steam Deck. I didn’t realize how much even just QoL mods would make a difference. Being able to zoom out further, your horse being one square wide vertically instead of two, seeing whether you’ve petted your farm animals yet, being able to look stuff up within the game…
I don’t think I could go back.
It absolutely is a game changer. Although not fun on steam deck when a new version comes out and its a pita to update all the mods
Hopefully Vortex will make that easier. I can update all mods on my PC far more easily than on their now-discontinued Linux offering, because I’m not willing to pay them their insane membership fee.
(I seriously feel like they should rethink that price. They’d get far more people to sign up for it if it were cheaper.)
