• tyler ( tyler@programming.dev ) 
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      9 months ago

      You’re calling it a hobby. That’s not what the image says. They’re behaviors. Like walking. You wouldn’t expect someone to think walking is a “fun activity in which your skill with it generally increases”. It’s just a fact of existing.

      • Bobo The Great ( bobo1900@startrek.website ) 
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        9 months ago

        My behavior, now and a as child was to open things for curiosity. My hobby now is to thinker with dismantled electronic. Is this a hobby or a behavior?

        I don’t think such stricts definitions really apply to humans.

      • pilferjinx ( pilferjinx@piefed.social ) 
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        9 months ago

        The image doesn’t mention walking. Singing, dancing, and art. I consider those to be hobbies, don’t you? I define hobbies as fun unnecessary activity, or in this case - behavior.

          • pilferjinx ( pilferjinx@piefed.social ) 
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            9 months ago

            Yeah, I suppose I’ve used the word beyond its scope. Let’s take dancing for example. People go to social events, like clubs, to socialize, dance, and hookup with people. That’s definitely beyond the word hobby. However, let’s say you want to learn to dance and decide to go to a dance school and take classes. I would consider that a hobby. Now, in context to the OP, activities conjoined with skill implies, at least to me, that maybe they’re talking about the latter kind of behavior. I dunno, but your view is perfectly valid.

            • tyler ( tyler@programming.dev ) 
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              9 months ago

              I agree that they can be a hobby. Like you might speed walk in races or something. But that’s the exception. I believe what OP is trying to say is that some things have been transformed from being human into a skill that people are expected to be good at to participate in. If you’re not good at singing, people don’t want to hear it. If you’re not good at dancing, people don’t want to see it. Etc.

              • pilferjinx ( pilferjinx@piefed.social ) 
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                Oh weird, if I encountered someone doing something without skill, I normally don’t care, unless it was somehow truly offensive. I haven’t even considered that anyone would care enough about such things. Thanks man for the clarity.

                • tyler ( tyler@programming.dev ) 
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                  9 months ago

                  Sure thing. Thanks for having a nice thoughtful discussion with me.

                  I also normally don’t care, but my wife does. She thinks about it this way and won’t sing or dance in front of people really.

  • wizardbeard ( wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    9 months ago

    I appreciate the sentiment, too many people put too much pressure on themselves to only do that sort of stuff if they’re trying to get better at ot.

    But birds and bees absolutely don’t do either of those things just for the hell of it.