::: spoiler It’s The Beaverton. :::

  • rafoix ( rafoix@lemmy.zip ) 
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    8 months ago

    What happened to all the conservatives upset about their gun rights? The vast majority are a bunch of hypocritical bootlicking cowards. They want an authoritarian master.

  • mfed1122 ( mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    8 months ago

    Given the amount of people who are interpreting this as actual news, I feel that satire should be clearly labelled as such in the title. It’s embarrassing to have people going around saying “did you hear Patel said…” And then when people check it it’s literally a joke.

    • HubertManne ( HubertManne@piefed.social ) 
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      8 months ago

      problem is that satire is now just stupid stuff they have not did or say yet. Like satire ten years ago was far fetched relative to what politicians or celebrities or stuff was doing but now its just stuff that is about the same as what they have done recently.

      • mfed1122 ( mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        8 months ago

        Yes I agree, it’s much harder to tell the two apart these days, which is horrible. All the more reason why it’s important to delineate them on sites like Lemmy. I mean, I get that it kind of ruins the joke to put [satire] in brackets at the end of the article title. But it’s better than creating misinformation

    • lobut ( lobut@lemmy.ca ) 
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      8 months ago

      Yeah, it was only a few years ago that I realized thebeaverton was a satire website. It used to be on reddit where it’s it was on atetheonion but for communities that are not explicitly labelled i think it’s a good idea to help people out a bit.

  • “2nd ammendment! … No, not that way!”

    The funniest thing is that this, literally suppressing the second amendment, was basically done just to try to act like there was some justification for his execution and in complete hypocrisy of what they promoted and pardoned on January 6th.

  • adb ( adb@lemmy.ml ) 
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    8 months ago

    Afraid the NRA will start pushing back seriously if (when?) they gun down another legally armed non-violent protester?

    As a European, I’d never imagined to come to see the NRA as a potential force for good.

    • cecilkorik ( cecilkorik@lemmy.ca ) 
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      8 months ago

      This situation is literally what the second amendment is for. When Americans were asserting their right to buy and own fully automatic assault rifles and the NRA would defend them, the second amendment is why. The amendment exists because the citizens of the time believed they would need guns to eventually defend themselves against a tyrannical government.

      Now they have a tyrannical government. I’m not convinced guns are actually what they need, but this is precisely what the second amendment is for and it’s not really a surprise to find the NRA is still in support of it.

      In my opinion, the problem is not with the second amendment itself, or the NRA’s unflinching support for it, at least in theory. The problem is, in practice, 90% of the people who are the most heavily armed Americans with the biggest arsenals under the second amendment are the ones who openly support the government tyranny: racists, bigots, and fascists who want their white-ethno-state. So not only are the genuine “second amendment” defenders against tyranny, like presumably Alex Pretti, going to find themselves outgunned by a heavily militarized police force and government, they’re also going to be outgunned by their heavily militarized angry white neighbors.

      They built a society based on a foundational tolerance of gun ownership, and then they were tolerant of all the wrong people, the most intolerant people, getting lots of guns, while the tolerant people said “we don’t need guns, because we live in a tolerant and just society and the second amendment is outdated”. Meanwhile, their intolerant neighbors were steadily building an arsenal for the civil war that they were planning on starting. And now it’s starting. The second amendment isn’t going to be the panacea that the founders thought it would. It’s been working against them and contributing to the problem. And that’s why reasonable people have been against the NRA and the second amendment for years (and probably still should be, although it’s probably way too late to change anything significant now), because we could see where this was headed. Everyone you don’t want to have guns, were getting lots of guns. And everyone you do want to have guns, doesn’t have nearly enough guns to matter. Yeah, it was everyone’s “right” to own a gun, but most people didn’t take advantage of that right, while the people you didn’t want to abused the hell out of it. It’s not solving any problem, it’s making it worse.

      • adb ( adb@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Generally agree. Didn’t mean to imply that the NRA was or is « good » at this point.

        Just hoping that they might lash out against the Trump admin at one point, which does not seem completely impossible now that they’ve called out their narrative on Pretti’s murder.

        I feel that they’re exactly the sort of actor that could make a difference by convincing some of the gun-wielding conservatives to at least stay on the sidelines, and maybe help the army make the right choices if they ever get properly involved.

        I realize it’s a rather optimistic take. The situation is very bleak.

        I’m intrigued by the fact that you feel that civil war is inevitable yet feel Americans wouldn’t need guns.

    • It’s a weird moment in time.

      Now would be the right time for all protesters to start carrying. Like the Mulford Act, nothing gets 2a supporters more concerned, than when people they don’t like, start doing the things they believe they themselves have every right to do.

  • some_guy ( some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    8 months ago

    Why would a “patriot” who believes the second amendment is important to protecting freedom dissuade people from carrying guns? Is it to make it easier to shoot them without consequence?

    Remember that kash fuckwit fbi-man berated his people for not having a cool bullet-proof vest for him to wear after charlie asshole’s face exploded. He’s a fucking diva. Be sure to yell and jeer if you see him in-person. Mock him for not having a girlfriend. That’s sure to drive him nuts cause he clearly feels the need to talk about her constantly to make sure everyone knows.