• Ben Matthews ( benjhm@sopuli.xyz ) 
    3·
    9 months ago

    Good, makes sense, as Scala is ‘made in Europe’ (mainly swiss and polish teams), and makes very robust software. Only it’s under-hyped. Here you can try my interactive climate-system web-model written in latest Scala, which compiles three ways - to the web-app you see, to native code for fast calculations, and to a jvm desktop app (with 25 years history, originally java).

      • Darkmoon_AU ( Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip ) 
        5·
        9 months ago

        AFAIK it’s an excellent language let down by political in-fighting in the ecosystem and subsequent fragmentation of is otherwise ‘standard’ libraries. IMO this kills the language.

        Kotlin offers most of what Scala does with a much more solid and supportive ecosystem, it’s the obvious winner in the ecological niche of ‘better JVM languages’, for me.

        • Alavi ( somegeek@programming.dev ) 
          2·
          9 months ago

          Umm, Clojure joined the chat.

          Clojure in my opinion is the most beautiful and powerful language I have ever seen.

          It has the full power of java ecosystem, amazing and simple concurrency, extremely simple syntax and semantics. You literally start ascending to other dimensions after a while of writing clojure. It’s like you are talking to your software.

        • u_tamtam ( u_tamtam@programming.dev ) OP
          2·
          9 months ago

          I don’t think that’s a fair representation. Like for any community, you tend to hear the most about a vocal minority, and drama there was, indeed. That’s not unique to Scala, that doesn’t mean that a majority was engaged in it or was affected by it.

          The point about fragmentation holds, though: Scala is a multi-paradigm language, so you tend to have communities assembling around core set of libraries and abstractions that fit their specific needs. It’s not a bad thing from an engineering perspective (you get to pick the most adequate tool for the job), but it will be intimidating at first, and understandably ridiculous when coming from a different ecosystem that you’ve a choice of a dozen or so JSON deserializing libraries. https://index.scala-lang.org/ Is a great help, though.