Here’s a fun idea: how about no more presidents?
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Liberals have no answers for the current political crisis. And instead of caving to that reality and showing some humility, they’ll try to rally the troops to “VoTe BlUe nO MaTtEr wHo” as if the Democratic party signifies all good with politics, while Republicans signify all bad.
A lot of these people don’t have the political science education or distrust in the current party to be able to see the Democratic party for what it is: controlled opposition.
Why do liberals think Bernie Sanders and AOC are leaders in the party that draw so much attention? It’s not because of some focus group. It’s because of the anti-rich world view both candidates hold.
Per usual, a Leftist means being right too soon.
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Even if you did, because someone else who we see as undesirables we will never lift a finger for occasionally murdee for fun or because theyre getting uppity but broadly half tolerate most of the time because theyre fucking stupid enough to vote for us a lot of the time didn’t vote for them this time, because they were holding out for an option that does not endorse their family being murdered with their (and your) tax dollars .
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I don’t pay taxes.
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By this logic, 1920s German Jews were responsible for Hitler.
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So, you agree then that Trump is a result of Trump voters?
And you agree that nonvoters did nothing to secure the Trump presidency?
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It’s a safe guess that a subset of redditors and fediverse users speaking english will narrow things down to: western europe, north america, scandinavia, expats in rok/japan/singapore/hk, n.zealand, or aus. no need to be obtuse.
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okay. little st james
How can we vote with Russia amping up its Voter Interference Beam and Disinformation Ray?
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Don’t you know you cant criticize any politician because they may be the appointed “lesser evil” possibly in several years.
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Leftists: you have two years to get a candidate that doesn’t support genocide through the primaries, and if you can’t, just vote for the one that supports genocide the least.
Radlibs: so you want Trump to win
What’s a RadLib?
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Trump got elected twice because the Democratic party kept nominating corrupt, evil people who were buddies with Dick Cheney.
If all it takes to justify a dictator despot is framing the opposition as being in any way that is corrupt and evil, even if somewhat justified, then the electoral system has already lost. That’s Orban’s playbook, too. Funny how the people who usually do this don’t tend to employ the same clear cut terms for the actual dictator despot.
If the democrats had nominated Bernie Sanders in 2016, then Trump would have never happened.
Nominating evil losers like Clinton or Harris leads to election losses.
Good thing it lies in the theoretical so you don’t have to bother pointing out anything corrupt or evil about him, huh. Although at the time, he was also demonized considerably. He’s a great safe spot for propaganda what-ifs, since he’s unlikely to ever be mainstreamed by democrats, but having said that your comment still sounds astoundingly naive because of its suggestion that even in 2016 elections weren’t being manipulated.
That’s the biggest problem with your comments, that you try to portray the candidates as the cause when it is a significant part of the system, from the gerrymandering, to the social network manipulation, to the purchase and control of local and regional media networks in the districts that mattered, to the lobbyists financing, contributing, and sabotaging for their candidates, all to place the labels of “evil”, “corrupt”, “loser” to candidates several orders of magnitude less than the current candidate.
It cannot serve any other purpose to misinform and disarm opposition by eliminating the possibility of any step by step solution over the “we must choose the sacrosanct most virtuous god emperor to save us!” I frankly think you’d be tooting Bernie Sanders flaws if he was more likely to be mainlined into a candidate, because yes, he’s been the better candidate for a while even if the process will not make him electable. Doesn’t mean that there aren’t better alternatives to dictator despot, but no matter how evil, how inhumane, how despicable Trump is, I suspect your conditions will always be placed in such a way as throw insults and discourage support of the clearly flawed but still nowhere as bad alternative. Forgive me if I’m wrong, but regardless I still thank your efforts because it does eventually push for much needed candidates like Zelenski in Ukraine to be voted in, although the US seems a bit hopeless in this regard so much so that state secession seems like a solution it might need to resort to.
Look, if you nominate bad candidates, you’ll get bad electoral results. Anyone who wasn’t a complete moron (or corrupt) could see that Democrats lost the recent elections due to the bad choices in the candidates they nominated.
Implying that the dictator despot convict scammer wasn’t a worse candidate. The world you preach is as simplistic as the words you like to throw around.
Did I say Trump was better? Trump is pure evil.
But if you want to win elections, then you need to nominate popular candidates. It is as simple as that. You can’t nominate horrible candidates and expect to win.
Sort of like how Biden lost in 2020. Your world view is simplistic and so are you, and that’s assuming the best possibility.
The only thing good with Trump is that, now Americans get to experience at least 1% of their of imperialism & suffer.
I am a non-Western person whose country has been tariffed to hell, yes I can say that. In fact look at this one video explaining why American don’t fight back.
Also the comments section is proving my point wonderfully.
Yeah, on a certain level some of us deserve this for spending previous decades choosing to be apolitical and uninvolved. But also our government has spent decades using violence and economics to teach us to be complacent. Like, they weren’t going to let that Martin Luther King situation happen twice.
The only thing I can do is pray that Trump distracts the Western world long enough for tye global south to engage in nuclear proliferation.
Followed up by multi-polar economic systems & then a coordinated embargo on the West for 10 years (more or less).
A multi-polar world is a better world.
Godspeed, guys. Gonna be plenty of people needing trade partners that don’t fuck them over and coup their leaders. No reason why that couldn’t end up being you
Good video.
His only source is a persuasive essay…
Hey so its actually that we have 2 years to uplift leftwing ideals until the general election, at which point we vote for the candidate who wants to bring the Torment Nexus levels down a little so that the Candidate who wants to double the Torment Nexus loses and we have a few years of lower torment while we uplift leftwing ideals again.
To clarify: not lower than now, both candidates want a torment nexus, but one wanrs to build it faster and not worry aboyt whether the orphan bones are fair trade.
Hang on there, because with some issues, they do want to reduce the torment below current levels, and i think that should matter
reduce it below
Citation needed.
Most libs want to provide free healthcare and fight climate change. Both items would reduce harm and suffering and genocide* domestically and abroad. *inequities health outcomes are tantamount to genocide; climate change also has genocidal effects
want to
No, they say they do. If they wanted to, they’ve had plenty of chances.
Lol. Lmao. 2 years with the bare minimum to be a majority with 96% of the caucus being for it and 4% (2 people) being the reason it didnt happen, is plenty of chances?
Abdolutely, yes, only there.
Still less than double the Torment Nexus and that’s what’s important. I don’t think it’s worth quibbling over the precise amounts even if it was 2 vs 1.99990
Absplutely! Now grab a hamner comrade, i bet if we put our full communist organizing mechanism towards this, our torment nexus won’t be as big as theirs, but it will be ready sooner, more durable, and more than three times as efficient!
The thing I love the most about this post is that I now know which users to block.
It’s great for that.
As a non-American I have to admit that I don’t understand how primaries work in that country. Why are the liberals who choose the candidate and not the leftists?
EDIT: Just to be clear. I know what primaries are, we have them regularly in my country. What I don’t understand is how these work specifically so that the bases cannot choose freely. Or is it that the Democratic base would be happier with a candidate like Hilary? If that’s the case, the complaints I frequently read here and on other sites would not be very legitimate.
The vast majority of people don’t vote in primaries for some reason so the demographics are different from the general, but also the DNC has plenty of tricks at its disposal to get the results they want. Now part of the reason those tricks work is that American leftist politicians tend to be pussies who are unwilling to take shots at liberals, but yeah the whole process is captured by DNC liberals.
The US doesn’t have leftists.
Exactly this.
And yet the handful that do exist never fucking stop whining when the Democrats don’t pander to this non-existent bloc.
Correct.
In the 80’s liberals got control of our progressive party, the DNC. Back then it was possible to pull voters from the right by appealing to wealth and so Clintons won by doing it.
But every election our candidates are supposed to be elected by popular vote within each party. Recently they just kind of stopped though because it turns out that was apparently just a tradition and not like an enforceable law or anything. And the Clintons wanted to have the White House again.
Primaries are generally much more extreme, because everyone voting is part of the party. So the candidates will be closely toeing the party line to pick up the passionate voters.
To be clear, the individual parties aren’t actual government-funded organizations. They’re private entities, who choose to hold primaries and then put the party’s support behind whoever wins. This is an important distinction because this means the individual primaries can be run however the party wants, even if that means not having a primary and simply running a sitting president (like what happened to Biden, then later Kamala after Biden dropped out). And registering to vote with a party is typically exclusive, meaning you can only vote in one pre-chosen primary election per cycle. Like if I were to register as a republican to vote in the republican primary, the democrat party wouldn’t allow me to cast a vote in their primary.
Then whoever wins the primaries goes on to the general election. While winning the primary is only a soft requirement for the general election, (anyone can run as an independent candidate), the US’ first-past-the-post voting system means it’s virtually impossible to win the general election without the support of one of the two big parties. And if you want to get that support, you need to win the primary. Independent candidates are generally thought of as wasted votes, meme votes, protest votes, etc…
Notably, in the general election, democrats’ campaigns tend to take a strategy of “move farther right to grab the center/center-right swing voters.” Since any registered voter can vote in the general, swing voters often determine who wins and loses the general. Which means candidates tend to disproportionately focus on appeasing those swing voters. And this tends to piss off the democrats/leftists/etc who prefer the farther left policies. Especially when those same candidates have spent the past month parroting the official democratic party platform to win the primary, then suddenly about-face and cozy up to the centrists in the general.
So even if leftists were able to get enough votes for a far-left candidate in the primaries, (they can’t, because America has no notable far-left/leftist voting blocks), that same candidate would then immediately shift to the center to grab the swing votes in the general.
I could comment on this post, but it’s just too sad that they are still getting away with it. Power to the people.
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I thought the US had two term limits?
The post is probably referring to our previous elections he ran in.
But the dude’s been testing the waters to break that amendment. He’s kind of in this weird state of transgression where when he does pull shit nobody takes him to task because they either directly benefit from it or they benefit from publicly opposing him but failing to to hold him accountable.
Do Republicans?
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proving the meme right immediately. good job. go vote for your billionaire backed neoliberal fascist of choice that got us here in the first place.
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it’s more like a ‘democrat’ saying ‘if you don’t spend the next 6 months shoving shit in people’s faces, we’ll force everyone to eat raw sewage for the next 4 years.’ then when they get into office, some things stay exactly the same, and others get substantially worse. to everyone except the business tyrant and the white median they offer nothing new, and they’re both the same shit to anyone from the Global South. they’re the controlled opposition of the two faces of capital.
SStatesians should do better, and that starts by organising communities and platforms which force real (material) changes at the local level, and which can combine to resist the bourgeois state trying to reassert itself, which requires a capacity for (counter)violence.
the only incentive for either party to adopt a particular program is the threat of losing (a chance at) power, but that clearly hasn’t fucking stopped them as far as the loss of votes is concerned.
The dems keep sliding right because the right isn’t voting for them. Just an observation.
Oh I am done with electoral bullshit. Our voices will never be heard as long as both parties are ran and bankrolled by corporations and billionaires. No single DSA candidate can dismantle that system, either.
