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cm0002 ( cm0002@toast.ooo )  to Privacy@programming.dev · 7 months ago

GrapheneOS - break free from Google and Apple

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GrapheneOS - break free from Google and Apple

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cm0002 ( cm0002@toast.ooo )  to Privacy@programming.dev · 7 months ago
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GrapheneOS - break free from Google and Apple [ENG 🇬🇧]
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  • Zwiebel ( Zwiebel@feddit.org ) 
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    Best phone OS around imo

  • lambalicious ( lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    “break free from Google”

    requires investing in Google devices

    I swear, the low quality posts with scam-like titles one sees in the Fediverse these days…

    • Lka1988 ( lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Every single time GOS comes up. Every. Single. Fucking. time.

      Do you people forget that buying used is an option?

      • lambalicious ( lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        I mentioned it in a comment below. But that also depends on how the used market works where you live. To buy something privacy-minded used, I’d have to buy it either from a meatspace vendor I can check myself, or from an online vendor that will take cash in split payments and has a verifiable history in the platforms I trust.

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      requires investing in Google devices

      It’s because Google devices are (ironically) one of the last few manufacturers that allows you to unlock the bootloader and provides mainstream “flagship” specs or foldy phones

      If you want to go with an actual privacy focused phone, it requires a compromise somewhere

      • wobblyunionist ( wobblyunionist@piefed.social ) 
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        deleted by creator

      • xep ( xep@discuss.online ) 
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        The Tensor is a capable soc but not as snappy as I would like compared to Snapdragon. Your point stands, though.

    • Th4tGuyII ( Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ) 
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      Yeah, it’s very ironic isn’t it. It’s like paying Google a massive exit fee.

      • lambalicious ( lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        I mean, you could buy used, but if you are going for privacy you lose a number of assurances from doing that.

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          Make Google Pixels more valuable on the second hand market means even more reason for people to buy one new because they know it will still have value to some nerd. It still helps google.

          • lambalicious ( lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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            ¡Exactly! Like, at that point you could buy a Fairphone used, and if you do that in your own country at least you have some level of assurance that it was already working with the cellular network in-place.

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              Exactly. Fairphones support eOS with relocking the bootloader. You can even buy a new fairphone with eOS preinstalled.

              No need to ride some hype train that benefits Scroogle.

    • hanrahan ( hanrahan@piefed.social ) 
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      Yeah, unlike apple fanbois everywhere using whatabouitism to justify their shitty stance /s

      Just buy a used phone ffs or at keast encourage those going this way so e/os can grow big enough to work with a manufacturer to make their own phone

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        at keast encourage those going this way so e/os can grow big enough to work with a manufacturer to make their own phone

        Graphene is doing this already. They announced a partnership with an Android OEM to produce a GrapheneOS phone some time in 2027.

    • gandhibobandhi ( gandhibobandhi@feddit.org ) 
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      They recently announced they’re working on support for hardware from other manufacturers:

      https://www.androidauthority.com/graphene-os-major-android-oem-partnership-3606853/

      • lambalicious ( lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        But that means making new phoens and getting them to market (and then to an affordable price), right?

        If I was to make a deal with a manufacturer it’d be about releasing the relock keys for the firmware on extant builds, since there’s a reasonable overlap between people who want to go to a phone for getting outside the Google / Apple ecosystems and people who want to get their already extant devices to last.

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      “But but but Google is the best, you don’t understand!!!”

      GrapheneOS has amazing marketing. They have convinced people to give more money to Google than google would ever make from selling their private information. Is GrapheneOS a Scroogle-op?

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        apple fanbois everywhere using whatabouitism to justify their shitty stance /s

        Just buy a used phone ffs or at keast encourage those going this way so e/os can grow big enough to work with a manufacturer to make their own phone

        • onlinepersona ( onlinepersona@programming.dev ) 
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          I encourage people to buy a fairphone with eOS preinstalled. That already exists. No need to put money into the Scroogle ecosystem.

          “ffs”

          • thomas ( thomas@friendica.tomforge.de ) 
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            @onlinepersona
            I prefer iodéOS over eOS

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              Whatever floats your goat 👌

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    I switched from iPhone to GrapheneOS five years ago and I remain extremely satisfied. I highly recommend it. Even if you don’t want to give Google money, you can buy used or at least rest assured that you’re still sticking it to them by denying them control and surveillance even if you buy new

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    Made the jump a half years ago. As is as half as hard as it Sounds and pretty Forward.

    I can only recommend to do it.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮  ( Kolanaki@pawb.social ) 
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    Well this is awesome. I opened the link to read the article and my phone dropped a notice that I can finally unlock the bootloader. What timing! 😃

  • Nightwish76 ( Nightwish76@feddit.uk ) 
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    Break free from Google by buying a Google Pixel, because GrapheneOS can only be installed on Pixels…

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    I’ve been using Graphene for years at this point, and so far it has been amazing.

    I have two profiles, main one without Google Play services, and fortunately a lot of apps just work out even without them. Some complain about it, but still work at least as far core functionality I want is considered, and for the few that don’t, I have a second profile that runs sandboxed Play Services and just switch when needed.

    I’m a little bit worried about Google’s push around installing apps from other sources than orignal Play Store, or the new integrity API, but I’m willing to just stop using any app that requires it, and change banks to one that either doesn’t require an app for login, or can work without play services. Fortunately, my current one works without, for now (mBank).

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