background; i had all my torrents seeding forever and i never set a limit mostly because when i set up qbittorrent i was new and never really went into options.

i want to be able to control and limit the bandwidth i use but is 50kb/s during the day/10kb/s at night unreasonable? i dont want to be rude or make it hard for people to get things but i also just don’t want thinks to balloon out of control (before i just keep everything in seeding perpetually just because i never bothered to look).

am i being unreasonable with limits? i obviously dont want to download and just stop; i always want to at least share back to at least 1.

these are mostly public trackers btw

thanks <3

  • fizzle ( fizzle@quokk.au ) 
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    8 months ago

    No one cares or will even notice your lack of participation.

    Some seeders have amazing infrastructure and can seed in an hour what would take you a year on a residential connection.

    This is not an “if everyone did that” problem because not everyone has limited residential bandwidth.

    If youre worried about moral obligations adopt a few torrents with very low numbers of seeders to ensure they dont die.

    Alternatively, you could rent a seed box for a month and upload 5 years worth.

  • Draconic NEO ( Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    It’s not really rude, no one really knows what your top upload speed is or how much of it you have to be able to use. Many people out there torrenting have horrible upload and download speeds but the benefit of the torrent protocol is that a bunch of people seeding a file with horrible upload speed can still result in fast downloads for you.

    The only ones who might take issue with it are private trackers who might require that people have fast uploads or upload a lot in a specific time frame.

  • frongt ( frongt@lemmy.zip ) 
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    8 months ago

    Public trackers? No, nobody cares. On private trackers, where sharing and keeping the content alive is important, share ratios are often tracked very closely, and you can be banned if you aren’t sharing enough back.

  • HumanOnEarth ( HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Yes what everyone else said, ratio is the only one that really matters.

    I seed to 10.0 on pretty much everything unless it takes forever and takes up a lot of space.

    Certain things, mostly things that are for the common good (books, practical software, documentaries) I seed forever.

    As long as you’re giving more than you’re taking in the long run, you’re good. If you cannot for whatever reason, someone will have your back and don’t worry about it.

    • ExcessShiv ( ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I seed to 10.0 on pretty much everything unless it takes forever

      What is “forever” in this case? I gave 1Gbit symmetrical and the best ratio I have is <4 on a torrent I’ve had going for literally years

  • cmnybo ( cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    8 months ago

    You have to set some upload and connection limits or it will slow down your internet for everything else. What you set those limits to will depend on your internet connection.

  • Brickfrog ( brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Those are pretty low limits but without knowing your actual bandwidth, or if you’re dealing with data caps, can’t say if you’re being rude… but you’re probably fine. In the end you contribute what you can, and seeding is still better than not seeding :)

    My own rule of thumb, if my running p2p software needs to have bandwidth limits then I aim for at least 1 Mbit/s (122 KiB/s) to contribute to the network. But that assumes you actually have 1+ Mbit/s internet upload and no data caps, people around the world have different available speeds.

    Might be helpful too https://duckduckgo.com/?q=50+kibibyte+to+megabit

      • cenzorrll ( cenzorrll@piefed.ca ) 
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        I’ve found that around 70% of my connection’s max upload speed is the sweet spot for keeping things speedy, but I only do that if I want something fast and there aren’t many seeders. I typically download at 20% of my bandwidth and upload at 10% so when it’s rocking I don’t affect anyone else on my network. I don’t have symmetrical up-down so my upload limit is a little above 10% of my download limit.

        For Linux ISOs, of course.

  • pineapple ( pineapple@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Unless you don’t have unlimited broadband data I don’t see why you would have upload limits. Maybe you would want to limit it to 70% of your upload bandwidth so it doesn’t interfere with other connections but 50kb/s seams really low.

  • curbstickle ( curbstickle@anarchist.nexus ) 
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    Ive had downloads that went on for months because there was one seeder at like 15-20kbps constantly, and one that would pop on and push a few megs but really intermittently.

    I’m in the “who cares as long as you seed” camp as well.

  • SaneMartigan ( SaneMartigan@aussie.zone ) 
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    Lol, the ethics of piracy.

    It depends on your connection, country, ability to seed and probably a few other things I’m not thinking of.

    I squatted for a while with 40gb per month on my mobile, I didn’t seed shit.

    I rented a seedbox for a few years and seeded some things into the thousands ratio.

    Plenty of people use Streamio which is straight leeching.

    Do what you can. The higher the ratio the better.

    I feel that if something has taken weeks/months to download I try to seed that for a while. If something is super popular its got enough support that I’m not making any difference.

  • sobchak ( sobchak@programming.dev ) 
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    I used to. My current router seems to handle QoS gracefully, so I haven’t found a need to. For the last year or so, I’ve been seeding everything until it gets > 2 ratio and there are > 10 seeders, otherwise I just keep seeding. I just looked, and I have one torrent with > 200 ratio, lol.