Apparently this will include Linux…
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Apparently this will include Linux…
lol no it won’t. what are they gonna do, go around the world knocking on doors asking open source devs to include age verification in their Linux distros? the law is completely unenforceable.
It isn’t enforceable on the personal level, but every commercial distro will need an implementation (and let’s be honest, they will each create their own) to sell pre-installed or to offer service for public and private device fleets.
Let’s just add it to systemd
Meh, adding an age question to adduser wouldn’t be that bad, we could even replace the current room number question
And non-commercial distros?
Depends if their non-profit is Californian or how deeply the mechanism is embedded into their base distro (if applicable).
If 0x0@infosec.pub is right and it’s done through a simple addition to adduser (and the GUIs) every distro that doesn’t actively patch against it, would get it upstream.
Anything but holding parents responsible.
Anything but giving parents/users responsibility.
Sudo su root!
Sudo su root now!
I’m giving root to my kids if and when I feel like they can handle it.
This literally IS putting the responsibility on parents.
The law requires that part of “account setup” includes asking the user’s age bracket, and then allowing apps installed via “stores” to retrieve that value from the OS. The entire burden of trust in this implementation is placed on the owner of the hardware, exactly where it should be.
For real. Let’s repeal all the laws around age, and make parents responsible. Drinking, smoking, driving, body art, firearms, etc. Let parents decide!
No, let’s hold parents responsible if their child breaks any laws.
What laws? As far as I know it’s not illegal for children to view pornography. Are you suggesting it should be? And you would have their parents charged with a crime if they were to do it?
Children have been in their neighbor’s dad’s nude mags since the beginning of time. Maybe if they don’t get molested and perps go free we could make progress there. " We can’t arrest anyone for Epstein files, but we need to track you so we can ‘protect children’." It’s outrageous.
In essence, while the bill doesn’t seem to require the most egregious forms of age verification (face scans or similar), it does require OS providers to collect age verification of some form at the account/user creation stage—and to be able to pass a segmented version of that information to outside developers upon request.
As much as I hate this, just filling in a drop down on OS install is fine with me. This is the ideal solution. Tell your kid’s device it’s for a kid, then use the default age restrictions correctly. That’s perfectly fine to me.
Anything to avoid evil age verification services that force deanonymization through every app and service.
I do still hold a strong reservation against these age locks — how long until the US deems LGBTQ and teaching about slavery as “mature” topics?
Agree with everything you say, I don’t like that it has to happen but having the device report whether you’re a child or adult makes more sense than having every service do it poorly themselves.
This is fucking stupid
Cannot legally use BSD in Berkeley?
Wait. What?
Thanks. I know.
Just amusing irony worth pointing out.
Pedantically, I should have used “wont be able” to future-tense it.
Anyway, I’m ready already, with a script to add to any of my distro-respins:
#!/usr/bin/env fish read -P "Are you old enough? (yes/no) " input if test "$input" = "yes" -o "$input" = "Yes" ; echo "Proceeding..." else ; echo "You are not old enough. Exiting." ; exit 1 ; end;)
OpenBSD, (unlike Linux) not being copyrighted by a foundation under U.S. law, begs to differ. Fuck the upcoming California law, I say.
That’s fucked up. Why don’t they just tell parents to turn on their damn parental control settings if they care that much about the content their kids consume?
The headline has “verification” in it presumably as to dog whistle to recent verification schemes gone awry to apparently drive clicks, but the quotes of the law in question don’t seem to actually warrant verification. Just to associate an age to a user account, which seems fine? So long as sudoers are assumed to be 18+ this could have near zero practical impact for day to day setup for many use cases. And let’s face it what’s the point if you are a sudoer, you could just change it?
There is no good use for this. Too many ways to abuse it, and we’re going too far into surveillance. The gov really doesn’t need to know how many times somebody shit today.
Stop buying anything that comes from California.
