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This. TNG would trigger conservatives if it were in today.
Remember when Ricker feel in love with the non-binary alien and they had a whole discussion about pronouns? It’s been thirty years and these guys still aren’t over shit like that.
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Seriously. Star Trek is “woke” first and science fiction second. Gene wanted to make an integrated show, he didn’t particularly care if it was science fiction or not.
Fuck conservatives.
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Go away
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I am asking a serious question, Does this show actually have any fans?
Yes it does.
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt that the question was asked in good faith, but I highly doubt it actually was.
My wife and I are fans, it is not without problems, but neither is TNG, or TOS.
That’s not a “serious question”. It’s personal judgement framed in a way as to suggest it’s the obvious conclusion of any rational person, to the point it’s insulting to the show and anyone who does like it. It’s bullying behavior that only serves to poison attempts at actual discussion.
So I’ll echo the other user and say - go away.
You may have dropped right before it really started paying off.
I just love how people trash nu trek then confess they haven’t even actually listened to half of it. And this is exactly what the article above is about.
You say you hate Discovery, did you actually actively watched it? Like, ALL the episodes?
Fluff off.
Fandom is such a toxic concept nowadays.
Do I personally like the show? No. But it’s not for me. I’m old. It’s a new world with new demographics to cater to and new viewers to appeal to.
So it’s perfectly okay that it’s not for me. It’s not as though my trek has vanished. It’s still there whenever I want to watch it. My trek is literally everywhere. Pluto TV, Paramount Plus, or the crap-tonne of DVD’s I’ve collected over the years.
Society has changed, writing styles have changed, audiences have changed. Get over it, people. How come people can’t not watch something while shutting the fuck up about it? Why does your dislike of a property give you the right to make other people’s lives miserable.
It’s not for me but neither was Discovery. That being said, there were folks that liked those shows and that’s great. I don’t have a problem with new Trek, SNW and Lower Decks are more my speed.
Discovery and SFA are terrible soap-opera garbage. it’s the type of writing some alfluenza orange-county high-schooler thinks is witty; it’s what people who can’t read consider “good”.
I hadn’t even heard of this till now.
Is it better than Discovery?
Academy has the best elements of every single series to date.
It’s not perfect—nothing is—but it’s impressively good and enjoyable. Yes, there are some quieter or seemingly “boring” moments from time to time, but these are usually when you need to pay attention, as they pay off big time soon after.
That being said, —and this isn’t necessarily aimed towards you personally— if you’re the kind to snub an entire series barely 5 min into it after mindlessly watching while doomscrolling, then repeatedly trashing it online to justify your lack of interest, then, no, it will not satisfy you, just like nothing else will.
Academy has the best elements of every single series to date.
Objection. I’ve seen very little professional behavior from anyone except maybe the Doctor and the Commandant, and of course Admiral Uncle. Some leeway can be granted, given the setting, but it’s something I very much miss from the TNG era.
It is much better then Discovery, but has to work in the universe discovery created. I like it more than Picard. More or less on the same level as SNW in terms of quality. Episode 2 and 3 were bad to me, but all other episodes after that were progressively more enjoyable to very good. Episode 6 makes a boring looking antagonist better to the point I would argue it is the best we got after ENT.
I liked the last episode more than any other in the season, despite it being maybe the least Star Trek one?
Previous one was ridiculous. Oh, these “kids” are traumatised by a bad experience? Let’s fix that with theatre! All together, 'cause of course everyone can heal with the same “therapy”.
I still hope this series can turn out to be good, after all TNG itself didn’t start out great. But it seems they want to bash you over the head with emotions and ideas, rather than make you feel and develop them yourself.
That could be caused by TNG being overall great, hence getting painful feedback wouldn’t be that common, as opposed to whatever fanfiction they’re filming these days.
Starfleet Academy is a fucking insult to all star trek fans and anyone who might want to watch a show.
Under-age drinking?
Everyone’s a moron?
Klingons are pansies?Frakes is so completely out-of-touch and absolutely full of himself. Fucking rich entitled actors – goddamn common clay.
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Of course the internet and social media amplifies the critics. But I hate the idea of blaming a not so good series on the internet and the fans. Because the reverse could also happen. And it doesn’t.
Maybe I’m not a fan because I only liked TNG, DS9, VOY and some of ENT, while not really liking much of the new Kurtzman universe/timeline. I skipped DIS as I don’t think it’s my thing. And I skipped PIC too. Still, I was convinced to try SNW on lemmy, and I liked much of it. Maybe as much as ENT. I also loved LD before it got cancelled. Even with all the usual toxicity of some fans, some positive comments and videos were able to sway me into trying them and liking them.
However, as much as I agree that some “fans” are toxic, other fans have made very detailed and logical videos about how this most recent series is bad as Star Trek. The ratio of bad reviews from pretty much all the spectrum of fans kind of confirms this, and I’m sick of seeing a lot of the past actors act like they know exactly what Star Trek is, should be, what fans should like, and if they don’t like it, it’s their fault and the internet’s fault.
“It was literally the biggest Star Trek set ever,”
It’s not because it’s litterally the biggest set ever that it makes it good Star Trek. And it’s not because he directed an episode that the writing will be better.
As we can see with the series Picard, and to an extent the movie Nemesis, sometimes actors are not exactly the best references for the canon of what they are acting. The dune buggy in Nemesis was Steward’s idea. As is a big part of the concept behind the Picard series. And having actors like Kate Mulgrew and Robert Picardo defending this and even going against some fans like me, is hurtful too. Enough so that I’m willingly distancing myself from social media and stuff related to Star Trek now. It pains me to see them push something that has lost most of its soul and blame the fans.
EDIT: About Patrick Steward seemingly not understanding his character:
It seems that “Nemesis” producer John Logan, perhaps to appease his star, wanted to do a favor by giving Stewart a driving/action scene, no matter how inappropriate. In a behind-the-scenes documentary included on the “Nemesis” DVD, Stewart said in an interview that he really loved driving, just as a personal hobby, and was happy to have access to a vehicle like the Argo. Stewart, it seems, was so excited to drive that he didn’t bother to ask why his character would want to — or even be able to — drive a dune buggy. Stewart, of course, isn’t Picard. He prefers entertainment with action and adventure.
