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Dazharion ( Dazharion@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to ADHD memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 8 months ago

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Dazharion ( Dazharion@lemmy.dbzer0.com )  to ADHD memes@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 8 months ago
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  • Iconoclast ( Iconoclast@feddit.uk ) 
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    8 months ago

    Back in the day, Apple had to tweak the shuffle feature on iTunes because truly random wasn’t random enough for people. It seems incomprehensible to some that a random playlist would play the same song twice in a row. People should roll a die more often.

    • Signtist ( Signtist@bookwyr.me ) 
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      I’ve noticed that randomized Spotify has what I call “rivers” of songs, where once it randomly hits one song along the river, it will always play the next one in the river until it hits the end. It’s really annoying.

    • untorquer ( untorquer@quokk.au ) 
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      I think the spotify shuffle+ algorithm weighs songs more when you’ve liked them more recently.

      I’m also fairly confident the artist’s contract impacts the weight as well, especially for suggested songs not in your playlist.

      Songs from the backlog get played, but at a much lower frequency. Random should have a relatively flat distribution, not a skewed bell curve.

  • shadowwwind ( shadowwwind@beehaw.org ) 
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    Its not random and they are honest about that. Because true randomness leads to occurrences were people think it can’t be random. Funny video about it :

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=OdLyKETk5o0&pp=ygUcc3BvdGlmeSBzaHVmZmxlIGlzbid0IHJhbmRvbQ%3D%3D

    • pilferjinx ( pilferjinx@piefed.social ) 
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      Couldn’t they just make it completely random without repeats until all songs are played or something?

      • VibeSurgeon ( VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ) 
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        Then it’s per definition not completely random.

        • mexicancartel ( mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          It is. It’s just a different kind of random

          Choose a random song from the kist each time VS Make a truly random ordering of the given playlist

          • VibeSurgeon ( VibeSurgeon@piefed.social ) 
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            It’s a different kind of random, one which is very much not completely random.

            It’s better for it to not be completely random though.

            • mexicancartel ( mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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              The ordering is completely random tho? I mean, now this is just semantics. The ordering of the songs are not made to space out nearby songs or anything. In that sense it is completely randomone of all permutations(50P50) of songs.

        • pilferjinx ( pilferjinx@piefed.social ) 
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          I was thinking more like “remove a random thing from a group” than “point at a random thing from a group”

      • shadowwwind ( shadowwwind@beehaw.org ) 
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        Having multiple songs by the same artist play after each other, or the same music style is also perceived as not random.

        And once you factor in that, you are at what Spotify is doing now.

  • Gormadt ( Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    One thing that’s been pissing me off lately on YouTube Music is that it’s been changing the upcoming songs AND THE PREVIOUS ONES in a random mix.

    Not to mention it’s also been just losing the previous played songs as a whole at random.

    This is infuriating as sometime you just gotta play the song a few times and then BAM it loses everything. Or I’ll change the order of the next few songs and then BAM, completely different songs in the queue.

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