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cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 6 months ago

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cm0002 ( cm0002@lemy.lol )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 6 months ago
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  • maddie1312 ( maddie1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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  • squaresinger ( squaresinger@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Got another option:

    Copos had a chance to stop piracy. Netflix demonstrated that. A full all-you-can-watch buffet for €10 a month with everything you need available caused piracy to all but disappear.

    Then they got greedy.

    Piracy is just as much of a natural result of asshole pricing and market fragmentation as unionization and strikes are a natural result of employers being assholes and underpaying.

  • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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    The mental gymnastics people need to do to feel better about getting something for free against the wishes of the creator is so wild.

    Just own it.

    • Mothra ( Mothra@mander.xyz ) 
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      It’s not always against the wishes of the creators. It’s certainly against the wishes of whoever is making money out of it, and fair enough this is sometimes the creator but more often than not we are talking about a middleman, such as a publisher or big entertainment company.

      When I see piracy is depriving the creator of revenue directly, it always feels bad to me.

      When I see the creatives have been paid already, or have several income streams (and big ones at that too) and the only ones deprived of profit are the middleman companies… Well…

      • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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        All of this is overthinking to try and justify it to yourself.

        • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          Seems like you are doing a lot of overthinking to argue against piracy on the piracy community

          • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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            When did I argue against piracy? My 28TB array of shows and movies begs to differ.

            • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              youre a fed prove me wrong

              • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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                You okay, lil bro?

    • db0 ( db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Yeah, “the wishes of the creator” don’t matter. They don’t get to dictate how people use an idea they’ve shared, no matter how elaborate. If they want to keep it private, then don’t share it.

      • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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        No shit

    • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Surely, as in most modern games, the creators exact wishes is that nobody will be able to play it in a few years …

      • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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        Weird take

        • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          Stupidest comment of the week

          • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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            Another great point by one of the greatest minds of our generation

            • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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              What else should I say when you use “weird” as a counterargument? That’s not rational, replying with a rational point doesn’t make sense.

              • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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                You didn’t make a coherent argument in the first place… What am I supposed to counter, exactly?

                • nimpnin ( nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ) 
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                  Dude log off already, others are having zero trouble getting what I meant

    • Grail ( Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ) 
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      I love Warren Ellis’s run of Moon Knight. The art, the writing, the themes, it’s so good. It was only after I recommended it on MULTIVERSE that I was informed Warren Ellis is an asshole. He cheated on dozens of women at the same time, giving them career favours in exchange for sex. It was a sexually exploitative relationship that the women were not made aware of in advance.

      Good thing I didn’t pay for it!

      • null ( null@piefed.nullspace.lol ) Banned from community
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        I’ve always meant to read some Moon Knight, is that a good place to start?

        • Grail ( Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ) 
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          Yes, everyone agrees that Ellis’s run from 2014 is the best Moon Knight made in the last 45 years. You can find it in the From The Dead book, which you shouldn’t pay for because Ellis is a creepo.

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        I just assume all creators of things I enjoy will eventually be proven to be sex pests. It makes it much easier to justify piracy morally to myself. (/j)

    • maddie1312 ( maddie1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      My favorite is people who use “archival purposes” as an argument for having a dump of some shit like SMB + Duck Hunt cart for NES. That shit isn’t going anywhere man, you just want to play it for free and that’s ok.

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    There is no “stealing” when we talk about digital goods, as copying files is virtually free of cost (just a littld bit of electricity).

    So if the file gets duplicated and you get the copy you stole nothing.

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    • Sneezycat ( sneezycat@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      I’ll stop pirating when piracy stops existing as a concept.

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    Piracy is a service issue, plain and simple. It would be all but dead if media companies gave their customers what they actually wanted, but line must go up at the expense of literally everything else.

    • Petter1 ( Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      Exactly! Distributor should not be able to lock you in with exclusive content, this kills the free market of distribution of media

      Like now we have competitors fighting against each other for having the best library, but they don’t compete against each other in the case of technology of distribution

      For example A disney plus exclusive has a monopol distribution way, there is no competition about how to serve the content. Meaning, there is no incentive to improve distribution. Simple capitalism. Capitalism “works” only in favour of the consumer, as long as the government ensures free market everywhere by regulating too big players who are destroying the whole concept.

      If a newcomer can’t enter a market anymore, the market is not free.

  • _‌_反いじめ戦隊 ( AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ) Banned from community
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    Copyright is tyranny. To oppose it, is to free.
    📑

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  • lemmysmash ( lemmysmash@beehaw.org ) 
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    Here:

  • methodicalaspect ( unwillingsomnambulist@midwest.social ) 
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    Digital “ownership” is temporary. Piracy is as permanent as the end-user wants it to be. I prefer the latter.

  • burble ( burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I miss the golden era of Netflix when they had everything. Now that all the streaming platforms balkanized… Fuck em.

  • quediuspayu ( quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Honestly? At two, but I’ll keep pirating everything, I can live with it.

    I agree with three.

  • kibiz0r ( kibiz0r@midwest.social ) 
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    Culture is our most important invention as a species. So important, in fact, that we’ve evolved to make it essential to our individual health and collective capacity to function. To deny someone access to interact with culture on the basis of their lack of wealth is cruel and anti-human.

    Likewise, developing something like an LLM, which spews thoughtless pollution into the only shared infosphere we have, and displaces individuals’ ability to connect to each other to develop culture… that is an existential threat to the human race and should be opposed vehemently.

  • cybernihongo ( cybernihongo@reddthat.com ) 
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    Piracy is good, actually.

    Come back when games become 1) strictly drm-free no launchers no nothing 2) more affordable worldwide 3) not subject to artificial obsolescence, then we can talk.

  • Pirate2377 ( pirate2377@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Copyright is useful for when you’re protecting intellectual property from being stolen by big corporations as a smaller business or private citizen. It’s actually the original intent for why it exists in the first place. The problem is that it’s rarely used that way and is instead used by big corporations as a battering ram to extract as much wealth as possible from the ones below them.

    • Facni ( Facni@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      (…) protecting intellectual property from being stolen by big corporations as a smaller business or private citizen. It’s actually the original intent for why it exists.

      Let me discern with you with this. Copyright actually started as a way for censorship, control and profit.

      History of Copyright https://falkvinge.net/2011/02/01/history-of-copyright-part-1-black-death/

      Also, trial fees are usually unaffordable for smaller business or citizens in most of the world. Corporations employ different strategies when using “someone else’s intellectual property” to avoid problems or persue their suers, and usually get away with it.

      Piracy is for Trillion Dollar Companies | Gamer Nexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdtBgB7iS8c

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