They are the lesser of the available evils. Anthropic, the proprietors of Claude, were blacklisted by the US administration for refusing to greenlight their technology being used for fascism.
My take on it is that it was used inappropriately, and when the fascists wanted it tailored for that abhorrent use, Anthropic refused, and in retaliation the fascists banned it for ANY use, so now Anthropic is suing to allow the sane to continue using it for it’s appropriate uses.
You seriously can’t think of any sane use? How about categorizing large amounts of data. Brainstorming strategies for problem solving. Converting pseudo code to actual code. Troubleshooting error messages. I mean, there are dozens upon dozens of valid uses that harm no one.
How does Bic plan to prevent murderers from stabbing people with their pens? How does Toyota plan to stop drivers from committing vehicular manslaughter? How does Hewlett-Packard plan on preventing fascists from saving manifestos? How does Apple plan on preventing sexual criminals from taking pictures of their victims?
What’s that? Companies don’t need to accomplish impossible tasks to have a viable product? I guess it’s only AI that has insurmountable demands placed on them by reactionaries.
The only not-evil move is to sit in a cave using sticks, once the trees figure out how to keep cavemen from beating their children with them.
Your problem is clearly with the fascists, as it should be, and AI is getting caught in the crossfire by your ire. You just can’t see/admit it yet.
Unless you live in a cave, which you obviously don’t since you’re here on the Internet sharing your wisdom with us, then you are participating in business and activities that enrich the fascists. It’s just a fact of life when they own everything. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Yes, but not for targeting, as explained in the article I linked.
The Maven Smart System is the platform that came out of those exercises, and it, not Claude, is what is being used to produce “target packages” in Iran.
Anthropic’s AI did data analysis for Project Maven, which was a system that used data analyzed by various sources to target a school. So the AI is part of the “kill-chain” no?
The AI underneath the interface is not a language model, or at least the AI that counts is not. The core technologies are the same basic systems that recognise your cat in a photo library or let a self-driving car combine its camera, radar and lidar into a single picture of the road, applied here to drone footage, radar and satellite imagery of military targets. They predate large language models by years. Neither Claude nor any other LLMs detects targets, processes radar, fuses sensor data or pairs weapons to targets. LLMs are late additions to Palantir’s ecosystem. In late 2024, years after the core system was operational, Palantir added an LLM layer – this is where Claude sits – that lets analysts search and summarise intelligence reports in plain English. But the language model was never what mattered about this system.
Yes. I never said it was an LLM. It was probably some custom AI system made by Anthropic.
Are we agreed that some Anthropic AI system (not necessarily the Claude LLM) was in the kill chain? That was what I was trying to say from the beginning.
There are many less evils. Use open source/weight AI like Kimi, GLM, Deepseek, Mistral, Olmo, Arcee, Minimax, Qwen, Exaone, NVidia, Sarvam…
If you don’t have the hardware to run locally, you can pay for API. If you find the company problematic for whatever reason, you can switch to the same model served by a third party (possible because the model weights are publicly released).
For me I just use it to get verbose answers to questions.
I use open-weight LLM over search engines when I can, because Google/Bing/Yandex are complete proprietary black boxes run by corporations of questionable morality.
Claude is almost always the better model compared to GPT. I find that this is a good leaderboard. However, both Claude and GPT have similar business models: make sure everything they do is completely proprietary, and keep everything behind a monthly paywall. They both run massive data centers to train their models, and neither really deserves the term “Artificial Intelligence”.
I just started with Claude and I can’t yet distinguish when it has actually done something it says it has done. With ChatGPT I can see through the bullshit quite well by now. At first I was happy when I thought Claude was rid of that bullshit, but turns out it’s just a different type of bullshit.
The UI and file handling is better in Claude though, and supposedly you can make it create skills which are like instruction booklets on how to do some tasks and then export and share them. But the ones I created were lost during the weekend so I’m not sure how robust they actually are.
less of the evils. That being said as far as quality goes Claude has taken a very noticeable decline in quality within the past several months. used to be half decent but now 8 to 9 times out of 10 you’re going to get an hallucination for a solution. Anthropic has REALLY dropped the ball with Claude and Claude code. absolute garbage LLM now.
Dumb question, but…is Claude worse than GPT or Gemini?
I was under the impression that it was the lesser of evils
They are the lesser of the available evils. Anthropic, the proprietors of Claude, were blacklisted by the US administration for refusing to greenlight their technology being used for fascism.
Anthropic’s AI system was used to target the school in Minab, killing 120 students. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/11/us-strike-iran-elementary-school-ai-target-list/
The company is suing to be able to supply the US military again.
That’s one way to spin it.
My take on it is that it was used inappropriately, and when the fascists wanted it tailored for that abhorrent use, Anthropic refused, and in retaliation the fascists banned it for ANY use, so now Anthropic is suing to allow the sane to continue using it for it’s appropriate uses.
What sane use? And how does this company plan to prevent the fascists from using it to kill another 120 children?
The only not-evil move is to not sell dual-use goods to fascists in the first place.
You seriously can’t think of any sane use? How about categorizing large amounts of data. Brainstorming strategies for problem solving. Converting pseudo code to actual code. Troubleshooting error messages. I mean, there are dozens upon dozens of valid uses that harm no one.
How does Bic plan to prevent murderers from stabbing people with their pens? How does Toyota plan to stop drivers from committing vehicular manslaughter? How does Hewlett-Packard plan on preventing fascists from saving manifestos? How does Apple plan on preventing sexual criminals from taking pictures of their victims?
What’s that? Companies don’t need to accomplish impossible tasks to have a viable product? I guess it’s only AI that has insurmountable demands placed on them by reactionaries.
The only not-evil move is to sit in a cave using sticks, once the trees figure out how to keep cavemen from beating their children with them.
I wasn’t clear. What I meant was: what sane things could a fascist military use AI for?
“Reactionary” lmao. My friend, I use LLMs all the time. Just not the proprietary ones from companies that are in bed with fascists.
Your problem is clearly with the fascists, as it should be, and AI is getting caught in the crossfire by your ire. You just can’t see/admit it yet.
Unless you live in a cave, which you obviously don’t since you’re here on the Internet sharing your wisdom with us, then you are participating in business and activities that enrich the fascists. It’s just a fact of life when they own everything. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
I have nothing against AI but everything against a certain AI company that is fully in bed with fascists.
Please do not use this slogan as an excuse to not sought out the least unethical option for your consumptions.
Maven is doing the targeting, not Claude.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/26/ai-got-the-blame-for-the-iran-school-bombing-the-truth-is-far-more-worrying
Also the WaPo is now Bezos’ news.
And Maven used Anthropic’s AI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Maven
Yes, but not for targeting, as explained in the article I linked.
Anthropic’s AI did data analysis for Project Maven, which was a system that used data analyzed by various sources to target a school. So the AI is part of the “kill-chain” no?
I suggest you read the article.
Yes. I never said it was an LLM. It was probably some custom AI system made by Anthropic.
Are we agreed that some Anthropic AI system (not necessarily the Claude LLM) was in the kill chain? That was what I was trying to say from the beginning.
There are many less evils. Use open source/weight AI like Kimi, GLM, Deepseek, Mistral, Olmo, Arcee, Minimax, Qwen, Exaone, NVidia, Sarvam…
If you don’t have the hardware to run locally, you can pay for API. If you find the company problematic for whatever reason, you can switch to the same model served by a third party (possible because the model weights are publicly released).
Or you could just not use LLMs. Fuck AI.
Other than wanting a verbose answer to a question, what is it for?
For me I just use it to get verbose answers to questions.
I use open-weight LLM over search engines when I can, because Google/Bing/Yandex are complete proprietary black boxes run by corporations of questionable morality.
In what manner? Capabilities, or belonging to an evil corporation that happily steals data and works to undermine democracy?
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Claude is almost always the better model compared to GPT. I find that this is a good leaderboard. However, both Claude and GPT have similar business models: make sure everything they do is completely proprietary, and keep everything behind a monthly paywall. They both run massive data centers to train their models, and neither really deserves the term “Artificial Intelligence”.
I just started with Claude and I can’t yet distinguish when it has actually done something it says it has done. With ChatGPT I can see through the bullshit quite well by now. At first I was happy when I thought Claude was rid of that bullshit, but turns out it’s just a different type of bullshit.
The UI and file handling is better in Claude though, and supposedly you can make it create skills which are like instruction booklets on how to do some tasks and then export and share them. But the ones I created were lost during the weekend so I’m not sure how robust they actually are.
less of the evils. That being said as far as quality goes Claude has taken a very noticeable decline in quality within the past several months. used to be half decent but now 8 to 9 times out of 10 you’re going to get an hallucination for a solution. Anthropic has REALLY dropped the ball with Claude and Claude code. absolute garbage LLM now.