There’s a lot I didn’t know about the process. It’d be interesting to get the view of US members of this community.
Dear seppos,
Australia proposes a cultural exchange whereby we will happily invite your progressive well adjusted not-stupid people in exchange for your accepting our fuckwits on a 1 for 1 basis.
Sadly there are way more of you than us, so if we send you our most fucked 10%, that’s only 3m of you.
However, Gina Rinehart, Rupert Murdoch, and Clive Palmer are each worth 1m in exchange if you can seduce them to renounce their Australian citizenship.
Deal if it’s retroactive because Murdoch already had to give up citizenship for control of foreign media type reasons.
Now that we have a credit for 1m refugees…
I’d never heard the term ‘seppo’ before. Looked it up. Have to admit a bit saddened that you used it.
Im a bit fucking saddened by the global financial catastrophe that we didnt need to have.
I agree fizzle, but to call all Americans seppos is insulting and unfair.
First and foremost, I dont care how you feel.
Secondly, I really hope you do feel miserable and humiliated just generally, even if not the result of my comment. The USA is precipitating unspeakable harm that will resonate around the globe for decades.
Finally, the term seppo isn’t intended as an insult. Its a jab or a jeer. Like calling an American a yanks, or calling your friend hairy legs, or a queenslander a banana bender, or a western Australian a sand groper.
I wouldnt call my girlfriends father a seppo, but an American im on friendly terms with, absolutely.
Thank you for your sensitive words fizzle 😆
Some if not most of the Americans that are in this community would have had to look up seppo just the way I did. They might not see it as friendly banter. We need to be supporting each other to create a better society. Call me snow flake but I am not a fake. Understanding other people creates connection and solidarity. We need that now.
in Australia a blue nickname is a term of endearment
I kid you not
Don’t be. The etymology of the word is simply that it rhymes with ‘tank’, and not specifically the word it rhymes with.
It’s the same as ‘pom’ for English people. And used in similar context. Yes, it’s a little derogatory - but more in a teasing way rather than a nasty way.
People who eat pork pies are not thought of as habitual liars, but it’s where ‘porkies’ comes from. Actually, that may not be a thing for you guys, huh? Porkies a chain there, right?
Not just ‘tank’, septic tank, therefore seppo. Not just tank and yank.
well thats how rhyming slang tends to work, e.g. you would hear someone say “there was a barney” meaning there was a fight (that’s Barney Rubble = trouble); or to “have a butcher’s” meaning to have a look at something (Butcher’s hook = look). Using the first part of the word or phrase is part of what makes it an in-group marker; those who know will understand, hence calling someone a seppo is just combining the cockney rhyming slang the ANZACs came across during the war with an Australian stylism. i would normally take that as friendly banter rather than derogatory.
Ned, I know about rhyming slang in general (I’ve been on this earth long enough :D) but the use of seppo IS derogatory and unfair. If (god forbid) ON won our next election and the Americans called Australians ‘losers’ for it would that be justified? I don’t think so. Right-wing narrative control in the US is very heavy and we are going in the same direction but the rest of our political landscape is not as lightweight as theirs is. Their voting system is different as you know and the economic situation a lot worse than here.
You’ll just have to take our word for it that it’s not a nasty term. Nobody who wants to insult you is going to use the word ‘seppo’. We have far more colourful words for that.
Nath, I know. I’ve been in Australia for over 6 decades but not everyone understands our larrikin humour or has seen the word ‘seppo’ before.
There’s a type of American who deserve the term, but like all generalisations, it’s mostly unfair. It’s a big country with a lot of different people and subcultures. If everyone judged us by the prime ministers we’ve elected, I’d be very upset.
If we elected a sex trafficking child rapist who initiated the apocalypse to fuel his ego then we would deserve to be judged.
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There’s a type of American who deserve the term, but like all generalisations, it’s mostly unfair.
The deserving ones will generally self-indicate, so it’s fine.
Its super strange, I’d run across it pretty frequently from weird super hostile nationalistic youtube comments in the past few years (flag of st George/american flag punisher kind of profile pics, nationality doesn’t seem relevant), but rarely anywhere else until recently on Lemmy. I always imagined it had been common in Australia for a while but recently it seems to have broken containment.
Kind of a self own if used seriously, though. I can’t imagine anyone but a little kid using rhyming slang to try to be hurtful.
and so the table has turned
Mate, murdoch already is ‘american’, thats how he owns Fox.
yeah someone else already said that. well done.
Not sure I understand the point here. Banks in Europe ask about the citizenship and you’re free to say No and there will be no issue opening an account. Assuming you have another passport, which everyone renouncing their citizenship must have anyway to not end up stateless.
The tax obligation can be ignored as well, I know plenty Americans abroad who haven’t filed in years but continue to vote from abroad. If needed you can make up with the IRS, but once the citizenship is gone, it’s gone.
The only reasonable explanation I see is the guy working a government job where the US passport could be considered a security concern. But this small minority should not lead to queues.
Hundreds of them!
If we ever get to the point where whining on social media is more valued than voting then just fucking shoot us.
What amazing principles these Americans have. Running away from a fight for their values because they don’t want to be judged. Well your being judged. We think you suck because you let this happen when you could have held your ground.
If Nazis take power in my country and I have to opportunity to leave, I’m taking my wife and (currently unborn) child and getting the fuck out. Is it selfish? Perhaps, but my responsibility is first and foremost to my family. I don’t want to raise a child under fascism. Likewise if there is a war. I’m not dying to defend my country (assuming it wasn’t my country that started the war in the first place).
Unfortunately the list of places to go that aren’t equally shit is getting shorter and shorter…
That list is getting shorter and shorter because we’re letting a global media superpower fall to fascism.
That’s the real problem with the line of saving yourself; it’s only a temporary measure. The longer you let fascism fester, the more it expands. Nowhere is safe.
your being judged
Irony?
then I suggest they fight for freedom rather than bailing like cowards
History teaches us that at risk minorities probably should have an exit strategy when a country is on the path to totalitarianism.
Under the current circumstances nobody from the USA really qualifies for refugee status.
There are millions of people in more desperate circumstances with a far greater need who can’t go home and vote in the “worlds greatest democracy” and achieve non-violent change. Just vote you stupid arseholes. You have power. Use it or lose it.
Renounce their citizenship? What about fight for their country? The land of the free and home of the (not so often) brave.
